Mark Cuban @mcuban.bsky.social · Jun 21 Bro-caster is a dem.
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Sanders ran as a Democrat in 2016. Had some surprising success in the primary until he didn't. He endorsed Clinton to unite the party once it became clear she would win the nomination, as is normal once primaries end. That's how I remember it. Why people hate him is beyond me.
Im confused. In the 2016 Democratic primary, Hillary Clinton received 606,822 votes (49.73% of the total) in the Massachusetts primary, while Bernie Sanders received 589,803 votes (48.33% of the total).
Fuck this guy. What do you mean you had no say in who would be President? WTF was that year long primary process where you all could vote in. Bernie got to write many of the rules in that process so ask him why you STILL think it’s unfair. It’s not unfair it’s just the guy you like didn’t win.
The fact that Harris became the candidate when Biden was forced out of the race was unfair bc dem voters had no say in that decision.
He always has been. Even when he supported Trump it was with Democratic-ish values. It seems like a big piece of the problem is a lack of understanding of the systems and politics, in terms of its inner workings. We've lost our informed pundits and replaced them with entertainers.
They let an Independent run in their tent. AND Dems can participate in primaries to choose nominee. How is this autocratic!?! Just bc your guy lost, doesn’t mean it’s rigged. SC is the BASE and they led the way in 2020.
Democrats aren’t going to get anywhere chasing conservative voters and then blaming the left when they lose.
I love Bernie, and I voted for him in the primary in 2016. BUT, once the contest was HRC versus Trump, no matter why, every sensible person had to behave like an adult & choose the person who was light years better than the other--HRC. If they had done that, we wouldn't be where we are now. The end.
But…um…he says there hadn’t been a “fair” voting process for a Dem since 2008 and they all nod. Like, what wasn’t fair? Didn’t everyone get a vote?
Who is that moron? You can see within 20 seconds he’s a moron. Its ok to be a moron. Its not ok to be a moron with a platform.
This guy sounds like a dope. Probably because he is one.
This is the start of another 5-10 years 5 trillion dollar war and thousands of American soldiers dying or injured based on another GOP lie. Congress can do its duty and stop the waste
I didn’t want a Clinton or a Bush in that 2016 election. I voted for Bernie in the primary as a protest vote but always knew I was voting for Clinton in the general. My primary vote is the only one I regret because it made a thing look bigger than it was.
This is a heap of cowshxx. Except for the last election where the top of the ticket dropped out late and the bottom of the ticket finished it out in short time, voters had a choice. It sucked that there wasn’t a primary but again the timing. You knew who Trump was.
Mark Cuban lights a fire next to a leaking propane tank & tiptoes away.
Splitting up the Dem party doesn't seem like a very good plan for future success.
The bro sounds shallow as a wading pool…
I love to know how Bernie thinks this ongoing bullshit helps anyone? Bernie's not a Democrat, the Democratic Party didn't even have to let him on their fucking ballot, but they did. He didn't get the votes. It's time for these people to fucking deal with that.
No he’s a f4ckwit
I think part of the reason HRC won the nomination was because the second most popular candidate was an Independent. I like Bernie a lot, but why would anyone be so audacious as to believe they should be the DEMOCRATIC nominee when they won’t even join the party???
The current morass rests on the 2016 coronation of Hillary. Recycling failure is not the path forward.
He is going to get what asked for but I have heard no(zero) democrats around me that spew republicans nonsense talking points on democrats rejection of KH like this. He is a republican or a republican plant. Just sayin’
Both parties are broken. Trump broke the Republican Party on Jan. 6th. Democrats have lost touch with their base. Politicians don’t represent us. They get into office and then represent the Party (Bernie is one of a few outliers).
So?
Excellent point. I was raised going to local Dem Caususes with my mom, and maybe they really did get to choose through that process. And maybe the Dems still have that process. In name.
False equivalence to the max.
Ok. Fair enough
Dems need broad appeal, and that’s where compromising (one’s values) comes in
This f*cker would rather watch his kids die vs giving them blood. Why? Because it's God's will. No one should listen to him.
anyone can run for office in the democratic party... even you... Just declare you support the Democratic Ideas and you can run Just Like Bernie did... Oh PS I was a bernie delegate... at 2 Levels in 2016.. his campaign had no understanding of the Rules .. and in Politics... the rules rule..
There are idiots everywhere
Sanders' track record.......anybody seriously impressed by this after 30+ years in Congress?!?!
What has Sanders EVER accomplished in his time in the Senate?!?!? Please list the legislation he has gotten passed into law....... And don't forget he was Russia's second choice in 2016 behind Individual-1!!!
Whole 2 party system is a threat to democracy it’s why Washington advised against it to begin with
@sanders.senate.gov Bernie!! Bernster! Thank you for being honest, and civil, and always doing your best for the greater good 👍
Uh Dude! Hillary kicked your ass in the primaries. It wasn't close. Cut the martyr routine and tell the host you don't win them all.
DINO
End the super delegates now.
He voted for Trump
Hillary was my choice. She would have made a great president. Kamala was not my choice this last time but I supported her. I think there should have been a primary!
Someone please tell that podcaster the story of democrat vs democratic. Being a life-long member of the Democratic Party is along to being a life-long member of the GOP and not knowing about the Southern strategy.
Spoken like spoiled children whose parents let them have everything they wanted. Childhood works that way with indulgent parents. In the adult world you have to make hard choices. You have to accept rejection because they happen. The person you desire may not desire you back. Case closed. Grow up!
Bro caster is a petulant whiner. I’m all for younger candidates and more contested primaries, but this whole idea if the most progressive candidate doesn’t win, the “fix is in” or the process is unfair is absurd. And the whole “burn it all down” mantra is despicable.
The lesser of two evils has always been the vote or third party/no vote. Hillary was predictable, Biden was predictable, Trump has and always will be the chaos candidate. The villainization of the Dems were always such a let down in the end and clearly pales in comparison to Trump.
Once again, though, more conversations about what color curtains to put up whilst the house is burning down. Americans have been sleepwalking towards this authoritarian moment for years now.
Agreed. Burning it all down and refusing to vote is not the answer. Thank you, Bernie.
Bernie would have beaten Trump. Full stop
Mark, what are your thoughts on someone wanting to be a party nominee? While refusing to join said party?
The coin-toss decisions should have been illegal.
These people are insane. Is Bernie concerned he might need to outrun them if he does argue the point?
First this
In 2008, the DNC decided Obama would be the candidate.
This is bullshit.
This is a whiny false narrative…that voters didn’t have a choice. Just bc your preferred candidate didn’t win the nomination doesn’t mean the primary was rigged.
How about focusing on the fascist regime taking ove BROS? Yall still with the dems huh? Poor babies
Stop bitching and get involved in your local party! Register more voters to get the legislation you want passed! It’s called a DEMOCRACY where the most votes calls the agenda
The 2016 primaries used the same system for Democrats that had been in place since 1992. In 2008, supporters of Edwards & Obama complained that superdelegates favored Clinton as well. But, Dems won popular vote for president every year from 1992-2020 save one. 68-88 was a disaster for Dems for prez.
Ranked voting works
IMO, going forward, there are many voters that the Democrats could win back in the midterms & the 2028 election, if they go a little more populist by focusing on a handful and of important issues like basic universal healthcare, lifetime public continuing education, childcare, veterans issues etc.
The 2 hugest mistakes for Dems since Obama: 1. Hillary coronation, led mostly by Debbie Wasserman Schultz who was the head of the DNC at the time. 2. Biden not making his decision sooner to leave office after his 1st term. *** But the biggest 'how we got here' is on Merrick Garland.
There's nothing in this video that I disagree with except the bro-talk of "burnin' it all down", which Bernie immediately set him straight on.
I like a lot of Bernie’s policies, but: 1) I’ve never seen a good explanation for the claim that the Democratic Party rigged the primaries. Bernie was on the ballot, and he failed to get enough votes. …
Three hasn't been a fair democratic primary since 2008? Why because in 2016 and 2020, your choice lost? That's ridiculous. 2024 was the problematic one. But that's the problem with Bernie bros. They're actions are the quintessential embodiment of the phrase cutting of your nose to spite your face.
This is absolute horseshit. Bernie fucking lost. How is this any different than trump yelling rigged? Really pathetic.
“Democratic socialist” confuses and scares folks just my opinion. But Bernie is super cool & probably the most qualified he’s seen it all w eyes wide open. May god bless.
This is 💯 trash. I’m a Democrat. I have a say. Sometimes the person I want wins the primary, sometimes not. But just because my preferred candidate loses, doesn’t mean I don’t have a voice. And PS - Senator Sanders is not a Democrat.
it's just too bad they haven't been saying this in locker rooms
Why are these people in the comments so mad about what’s being said??? Do you all have short memory?? Did you forget how the democrats screwed us all over because THEY wanted a woman to have her shot? Also, who wanted Biden? He was forced on us and then Kamala forced on us. Convenient to forget!
Yes!
Two things were major in getting Trump elected - OBama being elected (brought out the viral racism) & Democrats anointing Hilary, when many wanted Bernie. Created large group of revenge Trump voters, or non-voters.
Sanders has a major voice in the national discussion, but he IS NOT A DEMOCRAT. Don’t ask him about party policy or structure. He’s an outsider.
feeeeeeding Bern's conspiracies at the expense of Black women. who are the real base of your party.
Bernie is a trader to his race! He’s anti Israel, so let the squad and their fans embrace him.
So you didn't like the process, and instead of getting involved, mobilizing friends to fix the process, you threw a hissy fit and let THAT GUY get elected twice? The second time with the popular vote? Your sense of proportion is vanishingly small.
Blue MAGA turning out in these comments.
Burn it all down? If you are ok with Trump being president if you can burn it all down, then you are hurting. Not helping. I don't know that guy, but I don't like him. He didn't really say anything. He has no actual ideas. How would you rebuild? His strategy is the same as the Iraq war!
Mark Cuban should start a new party for non-MAGA people. The current one is FUBAR. It's beyond fixing & they are clueless how much the brand has become toxic in the last 4 years. So shameful when they lose TWICE to TRUMP. Putting Harrison in charge guaranteed failure. It seemed almost intentional.
That's true. The DNC, Donor & Consultant Class HATE Dem voters. We've had candidates foisted on us. In 2014 the fix was in for HRC. RBG knew it. That was why she wouldn't step down in 2014. (She was right about her running, wrong on her winning.) The fix was in for Biden in 2018. It was obvious.
These are the people that gave us our current government. They have no right to complain now! Stupid is as Stupid does!
For the simplicity that lies this side of complexity, I would not give a fig, but for the simplicity that lies on the other side of complexity, I would give my life - OW Holmes The only simplicity to be trusted is the simplicity to be found on the far side of complexity - A Whitehead
2 white men agreeing that if only they had nominated a man they would feel like the dems were valuing their misogyny. If ol Bernie hadn’t stroked his flagging ‘ego’ by running against Hillary there never would have been trump. Oh wait- 3 if u include mark the patriarchy lobbyist.
They complained that young men left them, then fired a young man to shut him up. I'm particularly angry about that.
Yes, let's shovel coal into the bullshit engine, as if it's not already running white hot.
Democratic leadership is corrupted worst they’re worthless and need to be replaced…they’re a big part of the problem
I like how we can't count Obama vs clinton because it doesn't support their nonsense. Obama was able to beat clinton because he had more people vote for him, despite her early lead with superdelegates. Bernie couldn't beat her or biden because he didn't get voters to vote for him. Its not magic.
M Cuban, please join with enough like-minded leaders to form a new US center party. Not as a vehicle for your own Presidential campaign, but to find and promote smart and ethical leaders across the nation.
Bernie's a great shit-stirrer, but as Bob Dylan observed "To live outside the law, you must be honest. Bernie's worked both sides of hypocrisy to good avail.
Bernie dis his best to jack the Dem party for his own joy-ride. Now the Bros are complaining they simply sucked at their hostile takeover, but they'll threaten to re-install Trump forever if we don't cave to their Bro-ness? What an attractive offer.
Bro-caster is an idiot.
Maybe if Bernie joined the party rather than use it for his convenience
“Burn it down” JFC
Democrats need to move away from the "whose turn is it?" mentality or else they'll keep losing. A true primary will produce the best chance to win.
Why are you posting this? I notice you don't share your opinion, just trying to stir things up? Do we need another instigator?
Cuban missile crisis all over again Oh, midterm elections coming up. Dems never would have started a war with Iran. Trump wants to fill the jails for his buddies, that's why the ICE raids (watch Mary Trump on youtube, she's got the facts, or do they not matter?) We just bombed Iran and started WW3?
Shame on Bernie for this sh*t. He knows better.
bernie is an independent
Listening to him 20 years ago on the @hartmannreport.com made me respect @sanders.senate.gov but the decades since made me Love him
lol they literally “burnt it all down” by voting for Trump and staying home because Bernie lost by millions of votes
They want you fighting over parties so you never ask who bought them. They’re not losing sleep over your rent, your debt, or your kid’s future. It’s 92% vs the political investor class. We’re building a movement. Join it.
The Bernie-Bros put me off Bernie. Unfair, but fucking true!
We now have the chance tochange the system! The voters didn't exactly have a far better choice. Biden Harris or Trump The problem with America cannot be blamed on Donald Trump, who can be blamed are the 77 million who voted for him. They knew who they were voting for and what they were going to get
"we didn't feel like we had a say" would put him in the "wanted to primary Obama" camp which is noooooooot a normal Dem opinion.
It infuriates me when people say Bernie did not support HRC in 2016, leading to to trump. This is absolutely erroneous. Even after the primary was incredibly unfair to Bernie, he still fully supported HRC. Same with Biden, 2020. Bottom line: Bernie is a gem who always aims to do the right thing.
Sanders would’ve been an awesome US president. Not gonna happen of course, but he would have done a solid job, simply due to being a principled and honest man.
hey mustache guy. go ahead and stop being sad about Bernie supporting Hillary because what the actual everlasting fuck was he supposed to do you knob. that crowd needs to get the complete fuck over it. Bernie is a street fighter.
Elections are very simple math. Americans are too effing stupid to figure that out and now you’ve got fascism because you couldn’t bring yourself to vote for the lesser of two evils. Eat fukking dirt, you damn imbeciles!
@mcuban.bsky.social Sure. But he and his crew helped Trump more than they helped anyone else. The moral failings of this nation’s people is why we’re here. Trump and the whole Project 2025 menagerie of monsters wouldn’t be so powerful if that wasn’t the case.
Dems had better begin to listen to the people. I was a lifelong Dem since 1980 and now I'm independent.
This guy is full of total bullshit. There were primaries and half the Democrats didn't vote. It's not the party it's all the people who don't vote and then bitch about the results.
Bernie got 1M fewer votes from voters in Democratic primaries. This “they stole it” stuff is ridiculous.
This argument they’re making is still a cop-out. That all sounds academic and introspective but the other side has trump… if you voted for him or didn’t vote at all, you’re equally to blame.
Bro-caster is casting bullshit. Bernie is not a Democrat. He wasn’t going to beat Trump in the GE. Clinton should have wiped the floor with Dementia Don and would have if far left Democrats weren’t selfish, childish shit people. (As Bernie explained in this clip.)
A few months ago you said that Dems needed someone like him to appeal to young men. So, he wasn’t a democrat then? What am I missing? We need Democratic men to make honesty, commitment, and respect for others cool again. I married one. I know there are others out there
Bro-caster never stops complaining about transgender people. He regurgitates the MAGA talking points nonstop.
And Sanders isn't a Democrat. Neither am I, nor have I ever been. However, we have a de facto two party system in this country, and anyone in a swing state who casts a presidential ballot for someone who isn't in one of those two parties is, in fact, casting a ballot for one of those two parties'
I really don't understand people on this app. I can't stand Twitter because it's this echo chamber of nazism. But this app - people really pretend like acknowledging how corrupt the democrat establishment is equates to support of the Republicans. IF our choice is always a lesser of two ills, we lose
Sure but if given 2 choices throwing your toys out the pram is not the solution. Bernie supported Hilary and in the circumstances he was right to do so
Sorry. But don't get me started on the votes Bernie supporters cost Hillary Clinton, so not impressed with his contribution to this discussion.
I don’t feel it went down like that, but I also can’t argue with it. I voted for Bernie in the primary, but dems followed the rules. It was BS, and they got rid of superdelegates, but it was the rules. As for Kamala, she was the only one Biden could transfer his campaign funds to. We’re a mess.
Rather than endlessly bashing the Democratic Party and wishing it reflected your own views more, why not expend the same energy pushing for ranked choice voting so that more views can be reflected among the candidates?
Ok Elon, it’s time to describe how you and your tech bros stole the 2024 election.
Bernie Sanders always going RIGHT to the humanity in every opine should be a Master Class for politicians who empathize and want to make society better. Why is that a noble expectation?
I do agree with the podcaster, that it should have NOT been Clinton, it should have been Bernie. Hindsight is 20-20 I'm afraid. I think we need FRESH blood via younger people i.e. 35 year olds. Hell, Pres. Obama didn't become president until he turned 47 in 2008.
Where was Bernie last night?
Big shocker: The guy who lost the primaries think the primaries were unfair. Yeah there wasn't a traditional primary for Kamala, but that was a f-ed up situation where Biden (who won the primary) couldn't act lucid. I'm all for Bernie bros reforming the system but don't check out - we all lose
We need to send this to the Democratic party, they should listen and learn!
The primaries are the only decent method we have to find a nominee. Caucuses are way too exclusive (people who work or need childcare can’t spend all that time). Bernie’s supporters made a lot of noise but more people voted for Hillary. 🤷♀️
These people all live in a fantasy world. Bernie lost and never would have won because he has support of a large portion, but not the majority of democrats. They will always united against him. Trump has majority of republicans, which is why he wins primaries
I'm still trying to figure out where Cuban is on the fight to save democracy; he's a billionaire, which in itself makes me distrust him. Complaining and distracting isn't okay. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, only goes so far. justweighing.com terrytrueman.com trueman-triola.stories.email
One thing I don't get with people like "bro" other than Trump being a dude, Trump stands for everything that Bernie is against. A Trump presidency takes us so far away from Bernie's vision than either Kamala or Hilary would, why not back a candidate that Bernie would at least have some sway with?
The 2 party system has and is failing Americans. If you wanna burn something down, then the GOP & DEMS parties need to go away. Let’s start over with at least three party choices but IT WILL ALL BE FOR NOTHING if we don’t get rid of CITIZENS UNITED RESIST FASCISM 🇺🇸 🗽 🇺🇸
The problem is we are now seeing the effect of the "burning it down" that has occurred since voters turned on the Dems in 2016. The only solution is rank choice voting & getting that in place widely is going to be extremely difficult cuz the parties block every effort. Both sides know they will LOSE
Blah blah blah.. that is what I hear when these fucking bros start talking
"Lifelong Democrat ... I supported you in 2016." They know he's an Independent and only a Dem during POTUS election years... right? 😐
This is 💯 true. Just look at Hakeem and Tell me this guy is the Resistance leader. He's a sleazy feckless spineless clown put there by Pelosi to perpetuate a legacy of business as usual. Probably Many Gop donors to Hakeem bc he's their best ad in Maga country.
If there was a lot of time from when Biden quit & Election Day, these armchair quarterbacks would have a point. A choice had to be made quickly, and all Dem candidates were on board. Meanwhile, Trump really is authoritarian but Repubs continue to support him! So, not even in the same ballpark!
DON"T WANT TO HEAR FROM ANY MEN KAMALA WAS THE CHOICE YOU FUCKS! Mark you are an ass! go fuck yourself HINDSIGHT 20/20 fuckers!
He's also an idiot. A protracted fight for the nomination last year would not have helped. FFS.
Hillary stole the nomination. with all her negatives, it was obvious she was gonna loose!
Bro-caster is a bullshit artist. The real problem is that the majority of the electorate doesn’t bother to pay a goddamn bit of attention to politics. Hell, most people know nothing about anything but celebs and/or sports. It’s no mystery how we got here.
Bernie is a really good man - Like Joe Biden, he truly cares -
This is why I loathe Bernie. At a bare minimum, have the decency and integrity to tell a fan, even tho they’re a fan, that they’re wrong. The Democratic Party IS NOT a threat to democracy. Bernie wouldn’t even do that. Unconscionable in these times of democracy being dismantled. Unreal.
Bernie couldn’t build a winning coalition in either 2016 or 2020. He had a low ceiling in both primaries, and could never get a big enough share of non-white voters. Also, Bernie did *better* in less democratic forms of voting like caucuses. Let’s not rewrite history.
Thst is ehst I have been saying since befote the election. The dems let us down. They agreed to a candidate and did not ask us. That is why Trump won.
He had some valuable points that he made, but saying Hillary Clinton was NOT a good candidate because he was too lazy to find out for sure, caused our downfall. Because some people chose to believe she was bad WITHOUT LOOKING FOR PROOF, is NOT proof that she wasn't a good candidate.
We've never had a choice. The billionaires choose the candidates, we just vote for the one who tells the lies we want to believe.
We caucused for Bernie. Our state went Bernie. Didn't happen. Doesn't mean Hillary wasn't an excellent, capable candidate. We were lucky she chose public service. We build a way forward that isn't the authoritarian fascism we have now.
I’m a dem. I don’t take orders from the DNC. I voted for who I wanted in the primary, not because of who the dem establishment wanted. I looked hard at HRC & Bernie. She got more votes—millions more. Why is that so hard to swallow? & Bernie didn’t step up 2 help enough. Sorry, it’s true.
fuck those guys, they just can't vote for a woman
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Bernie Sanders has said the same fucking stuff for 50 years. Yet he’s never even tried to write legislation to actually match his empty rhetoric. “Saying stuff” is easy. Bernie hasn’t done shit
Nice to hear Bernie torch the "burn it down" thesis. The rest of it is "coulda woulda shoulda". No fair primary since 2008? What is his beef with 2020? That Bernie didn't win?
Bernie didn't have the votes. The End.
Love what you are conveying!!
Please stop being over judgmental on Dems. They’re not perfect but godlike if compared to republicans. My sleepy cat is better than any republican in power now. And bro-caster didn’t sound so dem just a few months ago
It's a real yawner everybody still blaming Hillary's loss on Bernie. If you were really concerned about the 2016 election look to Jill Stein. She had so many fraudulent illegal and unverifiable signatures on her petition for the president in NV that she was denied by the TEA party SOS on the ballot
Yeah, basically. And then they gave us trump 2.5.
That phrase "I am a life long (insert party here)" is the source of many of the problems we face in democracies globally
Make sure you vote in your primary for progressives.
It’s almost as if the democrats are impotent because they are being cuckolded by their own donators.
Bullshit
Bernie was not and is not the answer.
The DNC is in so much trouble right now. Letting David Hogan walk away was a big mistake. Constantly asking for money is another one. Keeping Chuck Schumer is another one. Time to shake out the sheets.
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I adore Bernie Sanders. I shook his hand in Brooklyn, NY. He ain't never lied. The Dems ARE messed up, too. But like he implied... Never Trump or Republicans. The Republikkkans are burning it all down now. How does that feel?
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So much bull. Everyone knew Trump was going to be a monster, but they did not like her laugh, and it was cool to attack the most vulnerable.
He's spot on and nothing will change until Schumer, Pelosi, Jeffries and all other centrists and neoliberals are purged from the party.
Link to full video or at least the name of the podcast?
Perhaps the fact the news media was diverted by every lie, nonsense and "sensational news click bait" profits and ignored the Biden administration. The felon's words rewritten. Verbatim, those words told a clear tale of authoritarianism and propaganda. (Defunded ED since the 80s hasn't helped.)
This dude is not a lifelong Democrat. He can fuck off with that BS.
Mr. Cuban, you had no problem being part of Kamala's presidency if she had won. And she should have. Come on, he won all 7 swing states? We need to work on voting reform and make sure voting machines are not hackable (ahem, Elon).