Signe Calder @signecalder.bsky.social Like a mountain river born from ice, my affection is fierce but narrow. No desire to please everyone; only wanting to carve a unique path through the hardest stones of life, leaving a trace of cold clarity behind
Flavio Volpe, C.M. @flaviovolpe.bsky.social Lead APMACanada | Order of Canada | CEO of the Year | Macleans Power List | Proud Dad
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@mando1962.bsky.social @mando1962.bsky.social Proud Canadian
Support womenโs rights.
LGBTQ ally.
Married with kids and 2 grandkids.
Fear for the future of the US, but hope we can turn it around.
Not interested in flirty DMs
No crypto or lottery winners
Trump and MAGA can fuck right off
I swear a lot!
Bridget McGrath ๐จ๐ฆ @o-tawdry.bsky.social Atheist...Looking for peace & justice... both are elusive on any given day. I read, I write, I paint.
Glad & thankful to be Canadian. Happily paired for the past 36 yrs with a great guy.
Public Education & LGBTQIA2S+ ally
๐ซ crypto ๐ซ porn ๐ซ DMs ๐ซbigots
wzuk11.bsky.social @wzuk11.bsky.social Quasi-retired Canadian (๐จ๐ฆ) former teacher librarian, former executive director at Manitoba Aviation Council; artist (created 2 sculptures), author (10 books in publication) and filmmaker (roles in 18 films). Website: lorimer.ca/adults/contributor/bill-zuk
Jay of the North @1proudcanuck.bsky.social One Canada - Yesterday, Today, Tomorrow
1st of his name.
Make it make sense. At least some of it.
Don in Pictou County @don-ns.bsky.social Mostly retired business/marketing consultant, coach, researcher, writer, knowledge seeker, continuous learner, music fan. Here to learn.
JunimoTrashCat - Emilee <3 @moonlitjustice.bsky.social ๐ฅ Chronic pain spoonie. ๐พ Emotionally invested in Stardew Valley at an unreasonable level. ๐ฎ
@rexdalish.bsky.social @rexdalish.bsky.social Husband, Father, Christian, Canadian. Super-nerd for visual astronomy, aviation, and matters geomorphological.- V Venus @valodrum.bsky.social USA
can you make the world better ???????????????????? @justtheonethatcan.bsky.social when will people get along
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Law of Fairness @lawoffairness.bsky.social Could life be literally fair for everyone? Learn more about the global research project evaluating if conscious experience obeys a law-like closure condition. Watch the videos on TikTok: https://linktr.ee/LawOfFairness
Alex Jungroth @alexjungroth.bsky.social I'm a programmer. I also like drawing and writing. I'm a trans woman. she/her ๐ณ๏ธโโง๏ธ
Charlotte @luiz13rancharia.bsky.social A free mind in a decentralized world.
@radioderringer.bsky.social @radioderringer.bsky.social ๐๏ธFormer morning radio host.
Talking music, media, culture, and whatever comes next.
Canada ๐จ๐ฆ
@carmenlynn.bsky.social @carmenlynn.bsky.social Radical Left Scum
Escapee from X looking to try and hold on to our country in the face of whatโs coming. No MAGA. Asking not to be DMโd, unless I know you, doesnโt seem to be enough. Instant DM is an instant block.
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Terrace Bay Ontario ๐จ๐ฆ๐ฒ๐ (Unofficial) @terracebay.bsky.social Community, Nature and sightseeing in Terrace Bay Ontario ๐จ๐ฆ A great place to live, explore and thrive.๐จ๐ฆ๐๏ธ๐ฃ๐ถ๐ซ๐ฒ๐
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Symbiosky @symbiosky.bsky.social Make Decisions Through Conviction,
Fund Public Good like Journalism, Academic Content, Education
https://www.symbiosky.com/
Jose @justicia73.bsky.social Antifascist, in favor of a more equal and just country.
AgentJoeMcJoe ๐บ๐ธ @joemcjoe11.bsky.social โThank youโ 21,000!
Followed by Luke Skywalker.
Face Pic from 1965. Lifetime Metro DC Resident
I'm 73, lazy, adorable. But why am i single?
Trumpy's Cruelty is all they got.
The Mid-Terms in Nov to save America.
56 DAYS
**Tuesday, November 3, 2026***
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US Political Politics News ๐๐๐ฆThe Fighting Liberal @us-political-news.bsky.social U.S. Progressive Political, Politics & Breaking News ๐๐ ๐ฆ #bluecrew #blm #resistance #NoKings ๐Slava Ukraine ๐My History Channel https://youtube.com/@thehistorycatalog?si=I7LSHWZYWE_v-RNz
jclee1021 @jclee1021.bsky.social Disabled Vietnam Vet... widower... father of 3... believe in Tithing ...community involvement... Unionist... Prison ministry... work with ex-offenders... & people dealing with addiction challenges...
NOT INTERESTED IN HOOKING UP... STRAIGHT...
Later...
Binzah @binzah4eveh.bsky.social Gentle, thoughtful, generous teacher. Liberal feminist. ๐๐๐ฉถ
I hate big brother so if U post that shit ur blocked
jules, cowbell a f @catsrule0000.bsky.social ๐ณ๏ธโ๐๐บ๐ฆ๐ณ๏ธโโง๏ธ๐พ๐ฉบ๐
catemombe, lib a f; here for cat pics, humor, humanity, news (not a cat)
maga, terfs & racists fuck straight off
will block if you have no posts
Fight4USADemocracy ๐ซ ๐๐บ๐ธ ๐ฆ
โ๏ธ ๐บ๐ฆ๐ @fight4usademocracy.bsky.social ๐Never Give Up! Never Surrender!๐
๐WE ARE STRONGER TOGETHER! ๐
๐บ๐ฒ๐๐บ๐ฒ "HOLD THE LINE!" ๐บ๐ฒ๐๐บ๐ฒ
I will fight for American democracy
Am loving Bluesky, it's like fresh air!
All are welcome - except MAGAts
๐ซ NO DMs OR PORN! ๐ซ
M31๐ @m31author.bsky.social ๐จ๐ฆCanadian author by day, potato by night โข fantasy nerd โข book enthusiast โข magical โข Harvard alumna โข part owner of Canada โข my life is an absurd musical โข Lake Ontario forever
Stephie @geohistnut.bsky.social Nuts about geology and history, the arts and the natural world especially animals. ๐
No pornography, nor do I wish to date anyone. I believe cryptocurrencies are a con and an abhorrence to the environment.
Please no DMs.
Opinions are my own.
Thomas C. Harris Just plain Tom @harrissocal.bsky.social Left of center Dem. Life member Academy of Political Science. Musician. Autism Dad, Grandfather, Feminist, Rule Of Law/Scientific Method. Cancer survivor, (so far) NO DMs! resist BlueCrew DemsConnect StopProject2025 SafePlace STRONGERTOGETHER
Jaymichael48 @jmp1956.bsky.social Rants, humor, photography. Conscientious objector, 1971. Yeah Iโm old.
No financial requests please-Iโll be sending out my own soon.
@science-bites.bsky.social @science-bites.bsky.social Science for all.
"A blend of curiosity and the chaotic energy of a science lab gone wild."
WendyS ๐จ๐ฆ๐ @wendy-s.bsky.social #RESISTER since 2016
Called an โEmotional Support Canadianโ my 1st day on BlueSky ๐ฅฐ
Worked 25 years as admin at a college, now MS retired. Mom of 1, Nanny to 2 ๐
โDMs,Crypto,Porn will report
#Resist #GOPisComplicit #ImpeachThemAll (& dump Dems)
Katey @katey9.bsky.social STRONGER TOGETHER ... ๐ซ
๐ ๐จ๐ฆ ๐
"Iโm aware that the voices in my head arenโt real. But their ideas are just awesome sometimes!" au ๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐ ๐ ๐
๐๐๐ ๐จ๐ฆ ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ฆ ๐๐๐
Stranger @stevegrawks.bsky.social Punk Rock, Sobriety, and Radical Progressivism
lyndi @lyndishere.bsky.social I am a #BlueDot from the red Midwest.
NO KINGS, NO DMS, NO GFM
๐จ๐ฆ๐๐บ๐จ๐ฆ๐ช๐ฆซ @rammer1951.bsky.social Canadian ๐จ๐ฆ๐ฆซ๐๐ฅโข๏ธ๐บ๐ธ Father of daughters. Anti Bully, Animal Lover, H.D. Motorcycle Triker, Atheist, Volunteer, Adventure Traveler, Sailor, Nuclear Business Partner, Cardiac Case, Comedian, Naturist, 420 Friendly, ๐ป Beer Lover, Bachelor. Never The Far Right.
Not a Glass Onion but a Glass๐จ๐ฆ @tuskerdo.bsky.social JustJohn @ YEG, watching this Province implode.
Music, growing, and dogs rock, staying healthy but breaking too many of the food rules. Family actually likes my cooking, weird.
DO NOT post your useless Wordle score, ever, EVER.
๐จ๐ฆ๐ต๐ญ Call me Al @justal1971.bsky.social Proud dad of 2.
Twitter refugee and I don't miss it other than the sports updates
Gen X.
No dms๐ซNever 51 state๐
blueduck ๐จ๐ฆ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฒ๐ฝ @orblueduck.bsky.social Animal lover
#DEMCAST
#RetiredAF - nunya biness
๐จ๐ฆ๐๐จ๐ฆ
๐ MAGA
DM uninvited=๐ซ
crypto/financial advice in a profile=๐ซ
Cam/OF trolls=๐ซ
Empty profile, no posts=๐ซ
Timeline full of selfies=๐ซ
FOXTROT DELTA TANGO
Jerry Chouinard ๐๐จ๐ฆ๐ฒ๐ฝ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฌ๐ฑ๐ช๐บ๐ฆ๐บ๐ณ๐ฟ๐ฌ๐ง @j-chouinard.bsky.social I am Canadian, I'm a fan of Toronto sports teams. Particularly Maple Leafs, Blue Jays and Argos. No unsolicited DMs.
Rysiu @hermesthrice.bsky.social Proud Canuck. ๐จ๐ฆ. Love dogs,punk rock, Pixies, gardening, and SciFi. Love Strange New Worlds, Handmaid's Tale, and B5. Empty nester dad and wanna be philosopher. Retired DDS. London Ontario native.
Bernadette @barterb.bsky.social Ex radio host/podcaster supporting DIY/Indie artists (and some not so Indie) Passionate about great music ๐จ๐ฆ
๐ซ NO DMs unless I know you
James Cove ๐จ๐ฆ @covepeg.bsky.social Winnipeg/Manitoba sports fan, music fanatic, retired educator, politically engaged.
Like a sweet blend of maple syrup and sarcasm, I serve up Canadian wisdom with a side of wit.
CommonSense @comminsense.bsky.social I speak my mind and have no tolerance for MAGAts, Oligarchs, Trumps or Putin.
Accountability is dead.
Fuck Trump and his moronic cult. My flag is in distress!
#BlueCrew
#NoDemUnder10k
#BlueJersey
#BlueResister
HOLLY ๐ฉต๐ BLUE ๐๐ฉต @holly1971.bsky.social ๐ BLUE DOT IN A DEEP RED SEA๐
โ๏ธโ๏ธFUCK GERRYMANDERING!!!โ๏ธโ๏ธ
๐ ๐WIFE, MOM, AND NINI ๐ ๐
๐ฅ๐ฅ READY TO FIGHT FOR OUR NEXT GENERATION!๐ฅ๐ฅ
โ๏ธโ๏ธโ๏ธSAFE SPACE HEREโ๏ธโ๏ธโ๏ธ
๐ ๐ ๐ LET'S DO THIS!! ๐ ๐ ๐
Homeless Harry ๐จ๐ฆ @homelessharry53.bsky.social Iโm a lobbyist for the homeless
Letโs end poverty and homelessness https://amazon.ca
Ruth M. ๐จ๐ฆ @ruthnotabot.bsky.social No ๐ซDMโs. I am a grandmother, finding gentleness in a sea of hate is not easy, but I find some every day. Love for animals. Hope for humanity. Democratic voter and thinker. I stand up for what is right. Old, but not out of my teens, in my mind ๐ธ
Genesee_John @geneseejohn.bsky.social Genesee? River or beer? Could be both. ๐๏ธ ๐บ
๐ซ ๐ ๐ฉ #FDT
๐จ๐ฆ๐ฒ๐ฝ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฌ๐ฑ
#Elbowsup Eh
Proud Liberal. ๐๐๐
#BlueCrew
๐๐๐โโฌ๐๐โโฌ
Blue ๐ต In a ๐ฃish state.
๐งท ๐
๐ซDMโผ๏ธ
I donate where I want and you aren't it. So don't ask!
๐NC mountains ๐๏ธ
#GOBILLS ๐ #GOSABRES ๐
#NOKINGS
Freedom Writers Collaborative @fwcollaborative.bsky.social Freedom Writers Collaborative is a multi-state Indivisible chapter that is truly a grassroots operation providing messaging and social media content inspired by our progressive allies.
https://freedomwriterscollaborative.org/
Emanuel Joseph Sokol @emanueljosephsokol.bsky.social I love all animals. I vote Democratic. I love the world and everyone in it. I love God. Most of all I love you my BlueSky Family โฅ๏ธ๐ฅฐ๐ฏ๐๐ถ๐ซ
Old Salt @oldsalt946.bsky.social Retired Navy, retired Correction Officer, retired VA. Progressive resister. Proudly ANTIFA! No porn. I retired to my forever home, ageing gracefully in the beautiful north woods of Minnesota. If God ever retires, I'm pretty sure this is where he'll come.
Novem @novem704.com Democratic socialist, atheist and humanist. Amateur photographer, amateur musician, eager traveler and appreciator of the arts ๐ท๐ธ๐ถ๐ฟ๐ฝ๏ธ๐๐จโ๏ธ - https://novem704.com
โ๐๐ง ๐ฐ๐ฏ๐ญ๐บ ๐บ๐ฐ๐ถ ๐ค๐ฐ๐ถ๐ญ๐ฅ ๐ด๐ฆ๐ฆ ๐ธ๐ฉ๐ข๐ต ๐'๐ท๐ฆ ๐ด๐ฆ๐ฆ๐ฏ ๐ธ๐ช๐ต๐ฉ ๐บ๐ฐ๐ถ๐ณ ๐ฆ๐บ๐ฆ๐ดโ
๐ฟ๐ฆ๐จ๐ฑ๐บ๐ธ๐ฏ๐ต๐ญ๐ฐ๐น๐ญ๐จ๐ณ๐ฆ๐น
#BernieSanders #AOC
Builder of Spine one call at a time!! @oldfraildems.bsky.social Just an average old guy who after 51 years of do nothing politicians and stacking of the Misogynist Racist Supreme Court where the Chief Justice is beholden to Corperate America and Trump.
John Roberts FUCKING OF AMERICA: Citizens United V. FEC
Murph to Some ๐จ๐ฆ @murphns.bsky.social Left-handed leftie. Woke AF. Reformed news-junky- itโs all BS to scare/control/divide. Revolutionist againt greedy corrupt billionaires.
So so happy to be Canadian.
๐จ๐ฆโ๏ธ โฎ๏ธ
William Zafra Velasco @williamzvelasco.bsky.social https://williamzafravelasco.tumblr.com/
C. Beaujolais: Nom de plume @crbeaujolais.bsky.social Senior Uni professor by day. Dog lover. Satirist by night.
My covert account!
Wrote satirical novella: Russia tries to get asset into the Whitehouse.
โOperation Poodle: How to Train a Presidentโ
Non-amazon options
https://beaujolais.bravehost.com
Donna ๐จ๐ฆ @donnajjg.bsky.social Canadian escaping the madhouse of X. Progressive. Views are my own.
I ignore DMs ๐คทโโ๏ธ
ROCKY LASTER๐ฑ๐ฆ @rockylaster.bsky.social Feral Alaskan Hoosier. 17% Sasquatch DNA. High Priestess of the Leguminati ๐ซ. Allegedly Afraid of๐ Mice. Watermelon Enthusiast ๐. Awesome Dad๐. Adoring Husband. Impossibly Humble. Susceptible to Flattery, ๐ฅ's, and Wizardry. Balding Vegan Earthling ๐
Bob Schnell @quickschnell.bsky.social ICU RN 35 years (retired), teacher, Navy veteran, hobby: cartoonist, ANTI-TRUMP
No DMs, Will block if no profile, no posts, porn
Shirley Brandie ๐จ๐ฆ ๐ Part owner of Canada @sbrandie2.bsky.social Canadian
Anti-Trump
Climate Change, Pollution
Happily married.
NO DMS NO CRYPTO NO PORN..Instant block.
Offering me any free gift = report & block.
Dark Talk @dark-talk.uk The official BlueSky account for the Dark Talk podcast.
โข https://dark-talk.uk
โข https://patreon.com/DarkTalkPod
Barb Sullivan @sully45.bsky.social old gay woman, owned by 3 goldens
... ex republican - now Democrat
... gun owner for gun control
... Master Gardener (fruits & veggies)
...Boston born
... Once a city dweller but now a rural small town inhabitant
...No DMs please
Graeme MacKay @mackaycartoons.bsky.social Afflicting the comfortable with insights here and there on daily events through drawn work featured in southern Ontario dailiesโbut who knows for how long? https://linktr.ee/mackaycartoons2
CBowdidge ๐จ๐ฆ @cbowdidge.bsky.social 
Brenny @pissedoffinnh.bsky.social Mom, New England Sports fan, Atheist, Animal Lover, GenX, โItโs not what they call you, itโs what you answer toโ ๐ ๐ซ Independent, NEVER trump, Swearing is my punctuation, Snarky AF. NO DMs..seriously, DM=block
Endicott Author @endicottroad.bsky.social Prolific author, self published on Bookshop dot org, Good Reads, Smashwords, Google Play, Apple Books, B&N, Gardners, Amazon, Kobo and others.
Because of changes and age verfication requirements, I cannot participate in any chats or DM's. Sorry.
L Ron Hoover @l-ron-hoover.bsky.social Welcome to the First Church of Appliantology!
The White Zone is for loading and unloading only!
Mr veritas @hussainhabibi.bsky.social Just art ๐ผ๏ธ
Canadian Liberal @cliff229.bsky.social *LPC Member supporting PM Carney
*Blocking idiots
Alex Marten ๐ง๐ท๐บ๐ธ๐บ๐ฆ๐ธ๐พ๐ณ๏ธโ๐๐ณ๏ธโโง๏ธ @amarten.bsky.social โHumanity possesses far more effective and capable tools for promoting human life and resolving conflicts, such as dialogue, diplomacy and forgiveness." Pope Leo XIV
Jacob Redman @jacob-redman.bsky.social Author of Everything Briefing, providing you with everything you need to know for the day to be informed. Subscribe for free. โคต๏ธ
https://everythingbriefing.substack.com/subscribe
@jimmy3jay.bsky.social @jimmy3jay.bsky.social Cariduro from Fajardo Puerto Rico
I do not and have never received any govt or ngo money, directly or indirectly, for commenting on Bluesky or elsewhere
All my presidential votes have been for McGovern
USN 67-75, MM1. NOT "Epstein class"
James Somerville Edgar @jameswoodskcom.bsky.social ๐จ๐ฆ Retired after 40 years at CNR & into astronomy, woodworking, and genealogy. Editor of the RASC Observer's Handbook.๐ญ RASC Fellow, Dr (Hons) of astronomy. 
Kevin John Smith @odyssey53.bsky.social I'm an author of new age/spiritual fiction. My author website is https://nahannigatepublish.wixsite.com/my-site-2
aRemedy @aremedy.org A movement harnessing nonviolent noncooperation to prevent climate collapse and build a better, more humane and sustainable civilization.
Libra on Fire ๐ฅ โ๏ธ @libraonfire.bsky.social I talk about what nobody else is talking aboutโฆ
NY techie in ATL ๐ฉโ๐ป๐ Sassy Libra โ๏ธ, alien enthusiast ๐ฝ, pot-stirrer ๐ซโจ, unapologetically F* Donald Trump* ๐ฅโ๏ธ, and proud refugee from Twitter & Facebook ๐โโ๏ธ๐ป IG:@CallieOnBrand
@frankriveramar1.bsky.social @frankriveramar1.bsky.social Husband, Father, Art Director.
No DMs unless I know you.
Stump Grinder @stumpgrinder.bsky.social Like or repost me and I'll follow you, please follow back in 24hrs
I had 4 great Uncles who were lifelong Antifa, they all answered the call to arms and landed in Normandy on or just after June 6th 1944, may they all rest in peace, I am their legacy
Marty @marty10.bsky.social Christian, Social Democrat, Mother, retired Teacher, pianist, boomer,๐ณ๏ธโ๐,Palestinians, ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ฆ ๐ณ๏ธโโง๏ธ
grow dried flowers waaaa!
Please provide a brief bio of your interests. TY
Monty ๐จ๐ฆ @onlymonty.bsky.social Happily married semi-retired Canadian broadcast techie who rather golf, camp and ski! Happy place is hiking with my dogs ๐ถ
No ๐ซDM! Here to have my thought buds provoked and maybe provoke a few of my own!
JBGarrity Photography @joegarrity.bsky.social I enjoy taking photos and sharing them, mostly of nature. All genres from astro, landscape, macro, marine life, wildlife, insects, flowers, etc.
Mike @mamabellasdad.bsky.social Independent that leans left, lover of family and all animals, believer of all human rights, retired! No DMโs, No bots, No Porn, No Dating Requests. ๐บ๐ฆ๐จ๐ฆ๐ฌ๐ฑ๐ฒ๐ฝ๐ฉ๐ฐ
Chris Persky @thegreatpersky.bsky.social Childless Cat Man Pro Science Pro Choice Pro Democracy (The North will rise again!!) I pay for good journalism and give it away. Branded affiliate for vegan fashion accessories. https://www.corkor.com/wwwlinkedincominchrispersky
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แดกษชแดแด๐ธ @cstuarthardwick.com @แฉแแฉแชOG_Sแด แegular โญ แฏriters of the แดuture & แim แทaen แฉward Winner โญ Quora Top แฏriter โญ Southerner from South แชakota โญ
A unique voice known for inventive, thought-provoking narrative, philosophical depth, and fun!
Be excellent to each other.
Deborah Weeks/A Woman for An Eternity @deborah-10.bsky.social ๐Iโm a 73 year old Humboldt hippie, feminist, socialist democrat. Proud mother of two grown men. No grandchildren, 5 cats and 2 dogs plus 3 grand dogs with 1 grand cat. A Sagittarius put on this planet in 1952.
๐ซNO DMโs๐ซPorn๐ซSolicition๐ซ๐ฑ
Phil Hawkin @philhawkin.bsky.social X refugee, have been happy to be here!
The Orange Julius is an evil psychopath and a convicted felon, as well as a pedophile. Our priority should be justice for his victims.
Love critters and growing stuff. Keeps me as sane as can be expected.