Venny The Bat @vennythebat.bsky.social Silly lil cave puppy. Pooltoys, plushies and paws are some of the best things you can have ;3
Yunas @yunas.bsky.social Zoologically improbable and/or terrifying to small children.
He/Him | UK
Saleck @saleck.bsky.social Dragon ๐ฒ โข Nightdive Studios Employee #1 โข He/Him โข Single โข Gym Goer โข VTuber
Fursuit ๐ by @farukucostumes.bsky.social
Actions & Opinions are my own
KeytarRex ๐ Furc @keytarrex.bsky.social 34 he/him ๐
London ๐ฌ๐ง
๐ฆ ๐ ๐น ๐ต ๐ฒ โ๏ธโ๐ฅ ๐ณ ๐
Working on my first fursuit
No itโs not going well
Todd Aldrington @athleteraccoon.bsky.social The peaceful raccoon in your game just living his life. Furry, gay, writer of furry books, pretty good runner. He/him. Icon @tsaiwolf, banner @feyridi
Parz - 3D Artist @parsonsda.bsky.social 3D Avatar artist, Vrchat creator, Fursuiter and Dev! Mostly dragon, but am puppet, bat and also plant!
30 / Male / UK
https://linktr.ee/parsonsda
Always open to talk! @Parsonsda on most social for chats!
Jakeyboiii @jakeyboiii.bsky.social he/him, 23
might be a furry
Hey Furb! @furble.uk It's a Furb-le-fox or something. Sometimes other critters. Sometimes Shiny. 40+ UK Based. oop norf, Coronation St area. Apparently condaddy.
Mikepaws @mikepaws.co.uk Furry Fandom, Friendly Folf! ๐ฆ
Transportation Nerd, Politics & Gaming ๐ฎ
Based in UK, 38, Freelance Photographer ๐ธ
Gallery - https://flickr.com/mikepaws ๐๏ธ
Twitch Affiliate ๐บ - https://twitch.tv/mikepaws
Xelon @dogwithlens.bsky.social He/Them, Owner of Simply Cord, MTG Nerd, Photographer.
Ace and taken, TheKarelia suiter.
https://linktr.ee/XelonGrey
Rusty @rustyruu.bsky.social Hello hi! Good to see you again โ๏ธ
Making art with joyy
Stag โ๏ธ @thesleepystag.bsky.social Liz/Stagโข 28 โข fursuit maker โข maine โข message me on telegram to inquire about commission openings!
๐Fursuits @sleepystagsuits.bsky.social
๐Personal @thesecretstag.bsky.social
Site: https://sleepystagsuits.com
WIPs: https://t.me/sleepystagsuitswip
@themariday.bsky.social @themariday.bsky.social 
Critter Cottage @crittercottage.confuzzled.org.uk The official home of Brok, Dylan, and Mel! All the ConFuzzled mascots living together under one roof - what could possibly go wrong?! - www.confuzzled.org.uk
Tex Saber ๐ฏ โก๏ธ Megaplex 2026 @texsaber.bsky.social Suited-up sabertooth tiger mascot | 27 | he/they | patron saint of glossy materials | pfp: @eightbitbeetle.bsky.social | ๐ชก: @pinali.net | 18+
Ryker @rykertheshep.bsky.social Rock climber. Disc golfer. Coach. Mixologist. Photographer. #1 Daddy Dog. I try to make your day just a little bit better. ๐ (35/M)
patreon.com/RykerTheShep
LobitoWorks ๐ Commissions OPEN! @lobitoworks.bsky.social Two person fursuit making team making cute critters in Washington State!
https://linktr.ee/lobitoworks
#furry #fursuitmaker
Lex Logan @ GBUS, MIR @lexlogan.bsky.social Rubber pup of many colors. Love nylon, down gear, bondage
Minneapolis
Spine @spineblade.bsky.social I'm Spine, I make art and stuff. VR + IRL Photographer. Tired IT boi. Likes birds. Supporting all my LGBTQ+ friends. 26, He/Him, UK.
Art Telegram channel: https://t.me/SpinebladeArt
More links: https://spinebla.de
Pfp by @rhaelrasputin.bsky.social
Blue Scalecrest @ EF30 @chameleon.blue The chameleon guy. ๐ณโ๐
Available in any colour as long as it's, y'know.
Tauri ๐ Darklands ๐ง๐ช, FWA ๐บ๐ธ @puptauri.bsky.social Dobie, Pup, Rubber Fur, Artist
๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ living in ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ | ๐ | 26 | ๐ณ๏ธโ๐ Insta: taurithedobie
โค๏ธ @therianthropy.co.uk
Coby AILUR-OVERRIDE @cobyailurovali.bsky.social BAWA!
Hi I'm Coby! Artist, Suiter - Absolute Avali, previously panda, always more
Heres where my drawings and suiting goes
Careful, I'm Daydreaming~
27 - ๐Only - Suggestive posts/reposts
Sosh Dragon @sosh.co.uk M/30+/Ace/๐ฆ. I pretend to be a dragon on the internet, except when I am a dragon IRL with the help of an expensive carpet. Or when I'm pretending to be a red panda that isn't red.
Icon by @hooskworks.bsky.social
Header by @mongrel.bsky.social
GabaGabu @towble.bsky.social โ๏ธ๐๐ต๐ปโข๏ธ๐๐ ๏ธโ๏ธ๐งต Canadian, radio nerd, deer ๐ฆ, annoyingly tall little spoon wannabe, air filled things are cool, sometimes I sew, sometimes I solder, 30 or 40 years old, male?...Cis?...ace but kinky?...
starslikeroses @starslikeroses.bsky.social UK based fursuit maker
FINAL COMMISSIONS OPEN NOW
Ships internationally
Established 2016
starslikeroses.carrd.co - for comm prices
#fursuitmaker
#fursuitcommissions
#fursuitwip
She/her
Current pfp by: fritsaandf
@shimimanokit.bsky.social @shimimanokit.bsky.social 
wetlycraboy @wetlycraboy.bsky.social Alt. Gay. Grey-ace. Somewhat kinky (lycra/gunge/ws in particular). Same username on various other sites.
If I'm following you it's either cos I used to on Twitter, or because I thought you were hot/interesting/both.
High Speed Dergan Project @quiccvicc.bsky.social I asked the Lord for guidance. All I got was carcinogens in my bloodstream
UK, 29, gender? hardly even know er, 18+ only minors DNI
๐ 01/05/24
Insta: @13thRacing
Insta: @VICTORONETHREE
Banner by @vincehooves.bsky.social
Santtukivi @santtux.bsky.social 31/ He/Him/ Digital Artist / Fursuit maker / Bases are 3d modeled from scratch by me/
Fionka Fursuits @fionkafursuits.bsky.social ๐ธ Iโm costume maker from Europe.
๐ธ Quality suits with the smallest details. ๐ธ Contact: fionka.fursuits@gmail.com
๐ธ Commission: CLOSED!
๐ธ https://linktr.ee/fionka_fursuits
Towzer @towzeryote.bsky.social Furry, Yote, 30s, M ,Gay , Greymuzzle, Fursuiter. UK ๐ฌ๐ง๐ณ๏ธโ๐
Likes doggos, nature, games, movies, books & fluffy things. Introverted AF.
๐ SFW but Minors DNI ๐
Wishkamon of Traffic Cone Creations! @tccreations.bsky.social Furry seamstress living offgrid in Portugal! Crafting custom fursona Kigurumis, Hoodies, Plushsuits, and anything else we can dream together!!
She/Her Pan/Taken
https://linktr.ee/trafficconecreations
#furry #furryart #kigu #plushuit #seamstress #offgrid
Phyore @phyo.re Content Creator, fursuiter, dragon.
Web Developer and the creator of @nuztools.net
Find more at https://phyo.re/links
๐ชก: WintersHowling
TysonFloof @tysonfloof.bsky.social Twitter: @TysonFloof
18+
Kara! @kara.hyper.wang NSFW 18+! Furry, kinkster. Always making something! Designer, photographer, founder of Weredog. Very into VR! Serial enabler - be yourself, have fun!
Tempest @notveryathletic.bsky.social โHero of Stormsโ
ConFuzzled ConOps HoD
He/Him
Neon-Paw Creations @neonpawcreations.bsky.social โจ The official BlueSky for Neon-Paw Creations! โจ Solo suit maker and artist from the UK! โจ Occasional censored NSFW โจBanner by Coriโจ neonpawcreations.com
Vifoxe ๐ณ๏ธโโง๏ธ @vifoxe.bsky.social Trans non-binary, pansexual, vixen
she/they
๐ฉท๐ฅต๐spicy stuff @vifoxead.bsky.social๐ ๐ฅต๐ฉท
YCHSuits @ychsuits.bsky.social Small UK ๐ฌ๐ง based fursuit and accessories creator. Maker of bespoke costumes to your design.
โผ๏ธCommissions currently closedโผ๏ธ ๐Quotes Available๐
E: ychsuits@gmail.com
Jayjay @pupjayjay.bsky.social Puppy โ musician and tenor โ pool shar.. dog โ Web developer โ theme park doggo โ bondage kinkster with natural chest fluff! ๐ณ๏ธโ๐๐ฌ๐ง
Moco ๐ฐ at ConFuzzled! @weremoco.bsky.social He/His/Him/They/Them. Helps run a Medieval Mercenary group, IT perf tester, Blueish Bunny Rabbit.
@freddypanda
's bun. Opinions are my own.
FreddyPanda / FelicityKitty @freddypanda.bsky.social A day in the life and SFW Account of Freddy Panda Whiteheart. Characters (c) to me.
Freddy Panda Suit by @MadeByMercury.
Felicity Kitty Suit by @Snowgryphonsuits.
My Husbun @Weremoco.
Events ๐
Furry Track Day Nov 2026
ScotiaCon 2027
Confuzzled 2027
The Retro Collective @retrocollective.co.uk We preserve, curate, engineer and share vintage tech history.
Visit our links: https://ndulge.it/retrocollective
Hanternos ๐ Pawsome @hanternos.bsky.social Big fluffy birb - โ๏ธโ๏ธโLvl 37, Fursuiter (suit by @offtherak.bsky.social), sometimes squeaky, ENVtuber and snuggle monster.
Member of Little Critters!
twitch.tv/hanternos
South Coast - UK
Krypto @pupkrypto.bsky.social Sometimes switchy, beta BDsM rubber bondage boot doggo and superhero fan. I also make chainmaille collars.
Twitter: @pup_krypto
Bucky the Rubber Drone @tarkussharkus.bsky.social 32 | M | ๐ณ๏ธโ๐ | Single | Drone/Slave for use.
Usually ALWAYS rubbery ๐ค๐ค
Horny will be on main, just FYI
Cameron Gray @camerongray.me YouTuber and general tech nerd around all things networking, servers and home automation! ๐จโ๐ป
he/him
https://www.youtube.com/@camerongray1515
https://www.camerongray.me/
Garuda Workshop @garudaworkshop.bsky.social Hi! I make 3D art, mostly stuff you can wear like helmets and masks.
website: garuda-workshop.co.uk
personal account: @cinnamonvector.bsky.social
sock @sockfox.net 30, ace, ฮฮ. paws, plushies, pooltoys, and transformation
Plusharmy @plusharmy.bsky.social Canadian plushsuit maker
Kobuk the Husky @ MIR @kobukthehusky.bsky.social Shiny blue nylon dog in Minnesota
Felix Katz๐ถ @felixkatz.bsky.social Original fetish photography and stories. No reposts. Except reposts of pictures by me or of me. Decidedly NSFW. he/him/it/pup
๐ San Jose, CA, USA
The Muckle Stoater @tstoater.bsky.social ๐ช Barney Muckle ๐ช
Freelance Fetish Artist & Performer โ๏ธ๐คธโโ๏ธ
Podcast Host ๐๏ธ
Clown Porn Advocate ๐คก
DM for requests โ๏ธ
18+ ONLY ๐
https://linktr.ee/themucklestoater
Neo Cyrus @neocyrus.bsky.social Hi there! I'm a 3D artist, scripter, Ratchet & Clank enthusiast, and pretend to be a glowy furry thing on the internet. Prepare for stompies ๐พ
Profile pic by ScruffKerFluff
pho @phocat.bsky.social Fursuiting and card games and DJing - www.mixcloud.com/Phozon - and chess and speedruns and drone racing and..
CWIMSON FWAMEDWAGON @prootoastergen.bsky.social lv.39 #protogen hybrid
#vore #rubber enjoyer
i do tetwis on #twitch : twitch.tv/cwimsonfwamedwagon
Badwolf Brock ๐ธ๐ฌ @badwolfbrock.com The continuing story of a wolf whoโs gone to the dogsโฆ
Furry DJ and musician, fursuiter, and con staffer ๐ฌ๐ง
Next DJ Performance: Pawsome, 2 Oct
๐ BerksFurs SP, Pawsome ๐ถ, Doggy Weekend ๐ถ
๐ถ https://dj.badwolfbrock.com
Vaiseri (I don't use shitty bsky) @dergyvai.bsky.social Male, 23, | Always looking to make friends & chill. | In case you didn't realise...Im ADDICTED to dergs!! ๐๐งก
Keys ๐ช @foxxo.co.uk They think the most likely explanation is that the fox is a highly valued companion or pet.
๐ช Unfortunately a musician
Zhinrak @zhinrak.bsky.social Green Dragon / Synth - 38 / UK / Gay
๐NSFW Content!๐
FA Page: https://www.furaffinity.net/user/bigbaddragon/
Hobbies include: Warhammer 40k, Magic the Gathering, D&D
Frosti Foxi @frostifoxi97.bsky.social Quiet little ๐ฆ Toyota & car crazy ๐ can be seen around London & Essex, Likes anything inflatable ๐ ๐ 29, 99% sfw NOT an AD, All things 70's - 00's. Frustrated pacifist. FREE ๐ต๐ธ๐บ๐ฆโฎ๏ธ
Widor Fox @widorfox.bsky.social That guy who restores instruments and collects far too many of them - warning - foxes patrol this area.
Organ Builder by trade - any instrument questions, do feel free to ask !
He/Him - Furry - 33 - ๐ณ๏ธโ๐ - Musician
Chairman of Furry Springs over on VRChat
Dragone @dragone.bsky.social Kinky teal dragon that love all sorts of gear, especially shiny kind.
The Unholy Collective - Fish @unholycollective.bsky.social A Fursuit maker of the weird and whimsy... ๐โจ 18+ Only Thanks,
Latvian/Aussie- 26 - Nonbinary - Fishy Dumbass
Comms - closed Quotes - Closed
Cinnamon Vector @cinnamonvector.bsky.social Jessica. ใธใงใทใซ. Kobold. Adult. 3D artist in pixels, plastic, clay & textiles. ็นใชใฟ. Gogledd Cymru ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ Check out my other account: @garudaworkshop.bsky.social
Draz ๐ฒ ๐ ASC @draz.bsky.social POOLTOY DRAGON ๐ฒ๐INFLATABLE FRIEND โก thriveordie.life/music/baila-ep โก THRIVE OR DIE โก ๐ฎ๐ฉ๐จ๐ณ โก He/Him โก ๐ NO MINORS โก ๐ @buaya.bsky.social
Garth @ EF30 ๐ Furc, Scotia @garthwolf.bsky.social ๐ณ๏ธโ๐ Gay aro wolfpup (he/him)
๐ฌ๐ง East of England / 24
๐ถ Aka Carter the Boston terrier
๐ชก Garth made by @sodayeena.bsky.social
๐ธ furtrack.com/user/JamieTheMagpie
๐ @carterpup.bsky.social
Bungle Bearskunk @bearskunk.bsky.social He/him
UK/40/AuDHD/Furry/Bearskunk/Spirit/Avali/Kobold/Something-something-shapeshifting
I write/sew/voice act/draw/3D modelling/Con staff etc.
I also make awful puns... Some of the worst apparently! >.>
Views are my own, not my employer/con/etc.๐
Keplin @keplin.bsky.social Hi! Nice to meet you!๐ไธจGShep, Squeaky wuff, and Fuskyไธจ๐ฎโ๏ธ๐ฅ๏ธ๐ณ๐ฝ๏ธโบ๐ฅพ+ learning new things!ไธจNo minors please! ๐ไธจKinkyไธจ๐ณ๏ธโ๐ไธจโ๏ธไธจโค๏ธ @cedarwolf.bsky.social
Lorcian @lorcian.bsky.social UK Furry Raccoon | He / Him / CIS | Gay as heck - Service Top / Verse | Single | CFz Crew | BourneFurIt - General nuisance | Fursuiter - Fursuit by @ccdinofursuits | Artist, Nerd, car enthusiast and Gamer.
Paradise the Plush Dragon @paradiseplush.bsky.social 18+ | Plushie on Main!
Sometimes a Limzard!
Likes trying on different fursuits and gear.
En/Fr | Mid 30's
Not the best at Dm's but don't be afraid to hit me up!
Next con โก๏ธ furpocalypse? Idk lol come visit me or something!
๐ French Canadiana
Orman @orman.bsky.social Programmer dragon fursuiter | Also goes by @lizardorman | Pfp by @Corvirav on twitter
Dax @wolfwithdances.bsky.social Jeff aka Dax. Lindy Hopper. Software Eng. Chinese-American. Furry and fursuiter. @furcon volunteer, AAE board, former chair. He/they/any.
๐: San Jose, CA, USA
๐ฆ๐: @lattefox.bsky.social
Murtagh๐ฒthe Plush Dragon @tiltedpirate.bsky.social Gay plushie dragon, sometimes a bison. TF enthusiast. Grey muzzle 40+ Same @ on Tele. ๐ฒ and ๐ฆฌ by sleepystag.bsky.social
๐ดโโ ๏ธKarnage by Oops All Curls
21+ only.
Pittsburgh, PA
โค๏ธ๐บ @kiltedwerewolf.bsky.social is the love of my life.
Tibbs! @tibbsytiger.bsky.social Idiot Internet Cat - 30s - Photographer - ND - Queer - he/they - POC - ๐
Squeakfloat Guardian Drake! @coolsuitpoolsuit.bsky.social 33 yr. old Squeaksuit! Also takes the form of a Donk or Night Fury! This channel can definitely get NSFW as heckkeroni so obviously weโre keeping it 18+! ๐
Loves @bouchdabat.bsky.social a lot a lot like so much you guys
Suit by @candycoated.bsky.social
see? There's that rat again @bigrattime.bsky.social Zandy | This isn't interesting! Just blahblah
Main @pixelplague.bsky.social
๐ง โฟ AuDHD
'uwu no pawlitics' talk not welcome.
Pfp @diazrar.bsky.social
Saki -> Pawsome @possum.pet Poss in boots. Your local weirdo bassist. Coaster nerd. Enjoyer of electrons. Occasional kink posts and art. Frequent shitposts. Greyace idiot. 18+ Only.
web links: sakiposs.carrd.co
my kink account (NSFW): @saki.pet
Obsi @obsiburr.bsky.social Hi! I'm Obsi - sometimes stylised '0bsi', with a zero - a friendly philosofur from England! Dance with me! Failing that, talk with me about philosophy, psychology, VR, or modifying and fabricating electronics tech!
Next Up: Core Element! (Aug 14-17)
Flynn! @flynnwolf.bsky.social 
Runaway Workshop @runaway-adele.bsky.social Home of Awaykin Larp masks. Creating custom and pre-made masks for LARP, Theatre, cosplay, Fursuiting, and other performances.
Find my work at
Runawayworkshop.com
๐๐ซ BerryBarnWorks ๐ซ๐ ๐ EF @berrybarnworks.bsky.social ๐ Fursuit making business owned by @dendenart.eu and @pagrynga.bsky.social!
๐ซ Website: https://berrybarnworks.carrd.co
๐ LinkTree: https://linktr.ee/BERRYBARNWORKS
Nightsky Studios @nightskystudios.bsky.social Est. 2016 | LGBTQ+ Owned & Operated
Team of 2: Zena and Les
Dedicated to bringing characters to life through a unique commission experience where the client is involved during every single step.
Commissions: OPEN
Quotes are available year round
Tarpo @puptarpo.bsky.social ๐ WATERSPORTS | Friendly | 29 | They/Them ๐ณ๏ธโ๐
DMs from pups are welcome but try to keep it friendly not horny ^^'
Other Platforms: https://linktr.ee/PupTarpo
Early Access + Extended Videos: https://fansly.com/PupTarpo
Lupus Londonwolf @lupuslondonwolf.bsky.social Gay dog person married to a gay fox person, taking each gay one gay at a time. Dad bod ๐
โ ๏ธ Likely 18+ content of the pup, peen and ABDL variety - you've been warned โ ๏ธ
Love to cook so there will be food photos.
LVL 44. Reskeets welcomed and encouraged ๐
Ceil Fox @ceilfox.bsky.social Blue fox, Marine engineer, general nuisance and purveyor of finest dad jokes, deleter of Pringles. 
Conell @conell.bsky.social ๐ฌ๐ง๐ณ๏ธโ๐๐ช๐บDeer, late-er thirties ๐ฆ,
Fantasy artist, lover of nature, motion graphics designer, pinecone extraordinaire.
Unlicensed plastic surgeon.
๐พ https://www.furaffinity.net/user/conell/
Zepp Dragon @zeppdragon.bsky.social Fluffy Dragon, based in Manchester, 30's
Edward Fuzzypaws ~COMS OPEN!~ @poodletastic.bsky.social Parti-Poodle, animator, toy collector and tea drinker :)
Enagaged to @Bluethevixen.bsky.social
I draw ponies, critters and creatures! :D
FA & DA - TheMushman
Commission info - https://edwardfuzzypaws.carrd.co/
Yet another Blue (fox flavoured) @bluethevixen.bsky.social AKA Sticks
She/Her ๐ณ๏ธโโง๏ธ
Engaged to: @poodletastic.bsky.social
Engineer idiot, field costuming, science loving, swimsuit hoarding, dog petting, fox witch creature.
I exist because of music.
๐Nsfw stuff/ thoughts posted to
@bluenightvixen.bsky.social
ใฉใใ @drawg.bsky.social ๐ฏ๐ต 3D-Model/Fursuit/Kigu/Art
BOOTH/VRChat Avatar : http://drawg.booth.pm
PORTFOLIO : http://dworks.myportfolio.com
Twitter : https://twitter.com/drawg_t
Pocket @pocketfox.bsky.social 18+ only. ๐
34 ๐ฌ๐ง General dumbass of a fox ๐ฆ Loves snow, hates cold โ๏ธ Climbs things and throws dice ๐ง๐ฒ
Probably horny on main ๐
Lawrence of Labia @xenatharax.bsky.social ๐ฌ๐ง๐ช๐บ๐ณ๏ธโ๐enby dragon ^.=.^
They/It/Toy
Resident Pooltoy inflationist
Aerospace student @UoL
๐I take no quarter, under 18's will be blocked
๐ฆท๐ฅฌ Clear Eclair ๐ฅฌ๐ฆท โ CFZ! @cleareclair.bsky.social โ Clear โ Your friendly neighborhood cryptid โ
โ sometimes game artist โ sometimes java sparrow โ
I embroider cool shit! ๐
๐ฆท Commissions [OPEN]: https://clear-commissions.carrd.co/
โจ cleareclair.carrd.co has all my info! โจ
MaxFilmsVR @maxfilmsvr.com I'm a filmmakerโ videographerโ and VR enthusiastว
a friendly Nardo who loves exploring and connecting with new peopleโค
Im also proud to be part of the Furality Staffโ contributing to the videography teamโค
website https://www.MaxFilmsVR.com
Dask & Peet @daskpeet.bsky.social 18+ Two fetishist boys in love sharing their adventures in latex, down, leather, PVC, DMโs are fine, just be nice ๐
Utah
Cloud1516 Husky Landar #Megaplex @cloudhusky.bsky.social Very Shy 35yr Husky ๐ฒ๐ฝ
MFY & Twinky Arts suiter
Full Time Fursuit Maker & 3D Artist
Hugs welcomed!
Cuddle Tramp
๐ Taken7/1/20 ๐
Yume: https://shorturl.at/lrtP7
~Paws ๐พ are ๐
-Socials-
https://linktr.ee/Cloud1516
Arlow @arlow.bsky.social ๐ฒ ๐ณ๏ธโ๐ ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ35
Squeak @squeakderg.bsky.social NSFW | Dragon | ๐ | Alt account of @izumi-doggo.bsky.social
RubberNLube @rubbernlube.bsky.social Sometimes I wear stuff thatโs tight, shiny & smooth. Sometimes Iโm getting splattered with (or wallowing in) lube, mud, piss and cum. Both is better. Join me?