Stephen Jacob Smith @stephenjacobsmith.com · 24d Take a look at how this is done in Barcelona (left) vs. NYC (right, outside of Brooklyn tech). Barcelona has a handful of bins per block that they collect up to twice a day. They do not let rotting trash consume 10% of their curbside space for days on end before collection. That is disgusting!
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the sheer space between each individual bin is laughable by barcelona standards too. they are right up next to each other here!
Yeah the amount of space they use in Fort Greene is what I would expect to see on like the Upper West Side
honest question, wouldn't that mean like quadrupling the number of sanitation workers? (which I'd be in favor of I guess)
tbf that is next to Brooklyn Tech, the largest single-campus in-person High School in the nation, with 5,800 students.
Plus it’s a possible use of the Biliti Taskman, which is always good bilitielectric.com/taskman.html
NYC seems to me like an ideal place for underground garbage silos like they have in some European cities (but not Barcelona, I think). That would be much more space-efficient without necessitating increasing the pickup frequency. I wonder if sewer and utility locations make that impractical?
seems like rollout # of robot arm trucks is the biggest physical constraint of current approach. I'd love if they lengthened 2x rollout timeline but with 2x frequency vs stretching resources thin I'm sure to your point it's very influenced by labor and uncreative thinking but bet # an excuse soon
and their placement in front of schools is just making yet another double parking area for parents and buses into a triple parking spot since the curb is blocked. this plus an abdication of enforcing any form of parking or bike lane regulations makes for roads i can't even get through on a bike
Do you have a sense of how cost-effective collection frequency scales with urban density? Like at the extreme, exurbs wouldn’t have multiple-times-daily collection.
I especially liked seeing in Florence a couple of years ago, giant underground bins that people would take their household trash to. Collection would lift the whole thing out of the ground to drop into a truck. youtu.be/QPPBcTzF7hc?...
When they rolled out containerization in Europe, did they immediately adopt the current scheduling along with it? I mean, regardless of the answer we should be using the current best practices but I'm just wondering.