Brett Meiselas @bmeiselas.bsky.social · Jun 18 JD Vance just made an account on here and then was swiftly banned. I am obviously no fan of the VP, but Bluesky will never experience the growth it needs if it instantly bans any dissenting voice, including the Vice President of the United States. Feels like the wrong way to run things IMO.
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Looks like the account is back. I actually think it's a unique opportunity for people here to very clearly let him know exactly what's on their mind. You know he'll be reading.
I’m glad he got blocked. Fuck him. He literally spent his first post talking about why it’s cool to shit on trans kids. Normalizing hate doesn’t improve this platform. Shame on you for defending this garbage!!!!!
We have got to get over that people who constantly lie should be heard and given a platform to deceive the public. Allowing falsehoods and the truth to have equal weight is one of the reasons society is in chaos.
I blocked & reported him for hate & lies. He doesn't belong here. Full stop.
I am not a proponent of the current politics in general. But my concerns are more about having people scouting this platform for reasons to shut it down. I suspect that this is partly why the hiccup.
Karma is never wrong. He was received here like he received President Zelensky as a guest of the Oval Office.
Wouldn't it help if he used his own words to condescend to us?
Yeah and besides that we lose the chance to absolutely destroy him through comments. Damn.
Rarely can I say I agree with you, banning is so 2020
Vance just recycles whatever #47 tells him to say.
JD Vance is a well documented bad-faith actor. Its not necessary to platform documented liars. They’re net negative. Bluesky made the right choice.
Nah, f*ck that guy.
Options and further disease spreading are not one and the same…They have not earned those things the Constitution allows for. They are Seditionists and need to be classified as such.
Fake account I would guess.
Lies are not dissent. Lies are not a side. There is no place for garbage like him in my feed.
that's how we keep this from becoming a Nazi bar.
I like to NOT let fascists have a platform to spew their bullshit. It's not an opinion. It's antithetical to life itself. He can go to truth social if he wants.
Nah. Let him use the twit.
Time to break out the cat memes!
I can get behind the idea, but we're learning, via your channel, that we can't really trust their intentions.
Agreed on this,I know vpJD only in it to be the next prez,but he’s especially thin skinned on the socials,and it’s a way to get through that MAGA info bubble that they have been protecting themselves in,we have to attack and permeate and disintegrate their informational poison to somehow neutralize
Thank goodness! Bluesky is a refuge. The twerp can stay on Twitter and Truth Social where he belongs!
My blood pressure is bad enough without MAGA posting here.
I would say that you shouldn't give mentally disabled persons a gun and letting Shady Vance contribute to the Bluesky community is exactly like that....
Let him stay over on Twitter or X or whatever they're calling that hellhole these days. We don't need his lies or his energy here.
I'm glad they canned his ass. He's got nothing we want to hear. Let him tell it on truth social!
I agree with you Brett. However, JD has only proven to be a troll. He wouldn’t follow the community rules and would just be banned anyway.
Seems like he would have more important things to do than come here to troll. I don’t mind reason and open minded discourse. Seriously doubt that was his intent. I’m here for sanity not turmoil.
This JD Vance?
My feeling is that if Shady Vance wants to do both-siderisms, he can stick to Truth Social and Twitter. Both points he brings out smack of the "some people say . . . " nonsense spouted by Faux News.
Unless of course he posted some conspiracy theory misinformation like immigrants are eating peoples pets. Then fuck yeah he should be banned.
Uh excuse me but I like my social media free of Nazi assholes.
Agree. If it was indeed the VP, his account should be reinstated stat.
Hmmm. Maybe. But giving an additional platform to a professional liar and propagandist seems self-defeating. They already ga e the bully pulpit. Their lies are strategic, coordinated and deadly.
BLUEsky. Really
Let’s be clear- his voice wasn’t dissenting - he was transphobic. He came here to troll bc he is a child
The "a Nazi went into a pub"-story, comes to mind. His voice isn't dissent. It's power. Undeserved power. And potentially dangerous as well. I blocked him right away.
Well speak to the people, I left twitter because I was tired of being of provoked! I found myself being pushed to hate people that I didn’t even know… it was too easy because of the shear stupidity…. Not common sense but stupidity and ignorance…
I think based on what he posted a ban was fair. Doesn’t matter who he is. Get over yourself.
Block Him. Get some balls!
Parody
I don’t want this forum to become like X.
That was a impersonation / verification issue It has nothing to do with his shitty voice
The rooster was hit hard on Saturday. Good. If a Vance account is permitted, what about the others? TACO 🐓 Heggie, Gnome, Loonie Loomer, Mad Marj, Granny Boobert? If the door is open to one dodo, others will DEMAND to have an account. Accounts like Vance's are used to destroy hope and distract.
He's magat. I block magats.
I concur Brett. We actually need diversity in order to grow. Without it we stagnate.
Yeah. Those posts are fishy. I don't think he wrote them or that it was really J.D. that opened the account..
Fuck dissenting voices. Allowing people who are nothing other than propaganda machines has gotten us into this mess. We're DONE talking to them and normalizing their bullshit. I wholly support Bluesky banning Vance. He's a lying piece of shit all day every day.
If it were me, I'd just leave the banning up to individual users with banning only for a defined conduct that is categorically defined, sort of like pre-Elon twitter,
Don’t want him, his hatefulness, his lies, or anything else he has.
I'd probably pay a monthly subscription if it meant never having to hear/see/be remotely aware of his existence ever again.
Kick rocks, JD Vance, you piece of shit
Nah, fuck him!
If he was posting lies and misinformation I don't care who he is, he doesn't belong here. We left X to get away from the lies.
JD Vance absolutely has an active account on BlueSky
I'm a big fan, but I respectfully disagree. We should welcome conservatives, but fuck these MAGA nazis. They don't deserve the attention or platform. The right has tons of echo chambers, and it works for them. We can have at least one. No good comes from him being here.
I care less about platform growth than about the moral imperative to protect us all from the constant lies spewed by this administration. Their callous cruelty and duplicitous disinformation render them ineligible for access to this improved social platform, IMHO.
I’m guessing he’s blocked again because his account doesn’t show up in search. Fine with me. If he wants to post like a grown-up without trolling, baiting, shit-posting, fine. I came to Bluesky to avoid that kind of behaviour!
Normally, I would agree with the concept of allowing dissenting opinions in the spirit of encouraging constructive dialogue. However, I've learned over the years the best way to deal with a zealot is to categorically refuse to engage with them. Vance is a zealot. 'Nuff said.
Counterpoint… We do not, and never needed to, platform “dissenting voices” that are actually just fucking fascists.
What kind of political discourse are we gonna have with a nazi enabler? I’m all for intelligent political discourse but my differences with him are not political anymore. They’re moral. Because his behavior has shown that he has none that won’t change with the winds to advance his career.
Disagree completely, he has no place here
He's full of lies. He doesn't deserve to be here. I'm glad he's gone.
The man pays misinformation and propaganda, both of which are against the TOS. He's made clear he is incapable of different. Also, couch fuckers shouldn't have a platform anywhere.
Would we allow Hitler on here? Should we make our community grow and welcome people who don't tell the truth and hate us and anyone who's not a Republican? I get enough lies and hate outside of here. I don't care if he is the VP or not. Should we welcome Taco also?
Of course it will. He is more than a dissenting voice
We don't need to play nice at everything.. Look what it got US.. He'll still create news worthy stuff, just not through BS. He's got his TS and Twitter and more
His mother is here 😁 albeit in parody.. Seems he was too late to join the BS party, it seems, had to add a 1 to his account name.
So ok to post anti trans misinformation and hate? No thanks.
Platforming Nazi's is why we left twitter.
Is it real or is it Memorex? Maybe it's Maybelline.
That couch fucker should go fuck himself all the way to Twitter...
Would I be contributing to the growth bluesky needs if I accused @bmeiselas.bsky.social of being a rapist? Its not true as far as I know, but its a dissenting voice. So what if its dissent based on lies and bad faith like Vance -- isn't that what Brett thinks we need ?
"growth it needs" Walk me through what that entails. Does Bluesky need more liars? More faschists? More "diversity" from fact and good faith? Or just more numbers period regardless how much they diminish the overall quality of the forum?
Who banned him?
Mmm… if the V.P. Is lying? Bye-bye! Let’s allow anyone who is speaking facts, not fiction.
Fuck him
I never had a Twitter account. But I stay away from my Facebook similar reasons. However, I have mixed feelings about Vance being here. I know he doesn't care about what we think. So, I am curious about his alterior motives.
Keep him the fuck off disinformation to start
He will attract more toxicity, the very thing that sets Bluesky apart. If people want him, they can join Twitter again.
People like JD Vance are the reason I left Facebook, Instagram, Threads, and Twitter. 😆 He was a senator from my own state & I had his ass blocked on those platforms.
If you're that anxious to interact with him, there's always that "Truth" Social thing. Or were you thinking that those of us who don't want to see or hear his shit should nonetheless be prohibited from blocking him? Because that's what is going to happen anyway even if he isn't banned.
He won't last long. There are not enough haters on here.
I don’t think most people even remember why Bluesky was created any more at this point. But it certainly wasn’t to have yet another social media app where you account depended on the whims of a very small group.
Works for me. He’s got enough of a platform as it is.
grow how?? didn’t we try that already on x? we don’t need their bullshit over here in order to “ grow.”
JD Vance has no business on BlueSky. Ever.
Vance is Renfield, a soulless hollow doing the bidding of his master(s). All he'd do here is troll.
It's exactly how I want things run on Bluesky!
Vance perpetuates lies and repeats trumps BS and propaganda. I don’t want to see him here.
Nope we have zero room for those that can't live in reality, they can stay on Twitter with all their white supremacist friends 🤷🏾♂️
BlueSky doesn’t ban users based on ideology. There must have been a reason. For all we know it was a fake account that did something to get banned so that RW trolls and others would jump in with “BlueSky is an echo chamber that bans dissenting views!”
Why encourage them to join Bluesky? Kind of defeats the purpose of coming here. Bluesky’s growth is just fine.
Nope! I’m here to get away from that cesspool.
Unfortunately, people like JD Vance have a choke hold on the majority of media outlets. We need a place free of lies, lunacy and conspiracies.
Let’s be clear: There’s only one reason Vance would join and encourage his followers to join BlueSky: To flood this platform with misinformation and Nazis and pressure on BlueSky to relax its moderation guidelines. To turn it into another X.
I’d ban Darth Vader from the Rebel Base’s wifi too. Same thing.
He posts pretty consistently on Twitter. Why do you want that here? Ban all them from earth pls
Personally I don’t want him here. This is a safe space and we don’t need him.
Maybe on here to collect information to use against people . I for one would not feel safe speaking my truth knowing his minions are lurking for him.
I hope he cries about it and ruins his makeup
Sadly I agree.
Agree
Blocked him.
This should be a safe platform for those of us non-MAGA citizens who are already being hurt by this administration. If we want to hear from Vance or Trump we can turn to Faux or the media. This is not the time to invite more hate into this platform.
That first screenshot makes it clear he was only here to troll. Voices that dissent in good faith are one thing, but his goal was to spread hate, and a ban was the proper response.
Maybe his mere presence is a strike against the platforms rules?
Alternatively, fascists don't deserve a safe space to speak their mind and aren't entitled to be here, and Bluesky is doing just fine as it is.
Brett when will you learn that “when they go low we go high” never works and all we end up doing by taking that approach is enabling hate speech and normalizing bigotry? WHEN WILL LIBERALS LEARN???
That man's a good reason for keeping abortion legal
But yet, we can go on Twitter and shout insulting and hurtful things at him and they won't ban us as long as we lie and say we like Trump... cool.
I love it here and I'm glad he's gone. 100% behind Jay. 💙💙💙
Nah there's no room for people who don't see other people as people.
Conservative viewpoints are acceptable. MAGA is not.
I don't know… I think, having less bigots posting pseudoscience and hate speech is a good thing. fuck dissenting voices when what they're descending about is the humanity of actual people who exist.
Never got to tell him to eat shit and die... sad
Who needs Blue Twitter, I'm here to recover. But that's just me. #WorldLitterRun
He was still on here when I just checked. 😠
He shouldn’t be on ANY social media!! Solely because he’s too busy helping run a country!!! *into the ground* Maybe he needs more friends?!
No one wants to see his 🐂💩 here
F him. He already has a world wide platform. This is the only solid Blue one at the moment.
How do you know this was the post that got him banned? Anyway, Thomas, shockingly (😱) was wrong in his comments: the TN ban applies to treatment that is NOT permanent. Also, for him to say that the experts in their field let their “ideology” determine their views is the height of hypocrisy.
This account (if it's genuine) is not banned at the moment
Disagree with you this time
I mean he's EVENTUALLY gonna break the site rules anyways imo so its not worth sweating over. Conservatives get themselves banned ( like on youtube by breaking site rules then cry victim to their sheep. Thing is all maga has is rage bait.
I am dead certain he specifically posted something inflammatory so that he would be banned and then go to X and crow about his banishment. Which is exactly what he did.
He has many platforms on which to lie.
We don't negotiate with terrorists. His views are not "opposing" they're dangerous lies and propaganda. He's done enough damage and he has enough of a platform. Stop. Just stop.
shut the fuck up, cop
Its ok with me!
"I'm here to engage with by you trolling Trans folk." Closes account or gets booted, then cries victim?~ So it turns out he was the victim all along, WHO KNEW!
You are right, but you are wrong. They are fascist, and they aren't good faith actors. If they were good faith actors, then post away. It's not 1986, the repcons are the enemy, and they are the ones who decided to be this way.
I don't want him and his racist cult here!! Let us have one nice place to go without all the bile and hate!!
He's just trying to overrun bsky with trolls. It's not going to work but he's trying.
You're in the loop as to why he was banned?
Yeah, no. I came to Bluesky to get any from fascists, not read their daily hate speech.
I think letting the people on here trash his arguments would be better rather than the ban.
Agree, this shouldn’t be an echo chamber
Jd Vance can suck a big one on x, not here. False information shouldn’t have a leg to stand on here.
His page is working: bsky.app/profile/jd-v...
Fuxk jd vance
Nope. Don’t need to listen to a drunk
I don't want to debate whether trans people have a right to exist or get the healthcare they need. I'm pretty sure there are plenty of topics (interracial marriage for example) you feel the same about. Inviting 'debate' about vulnerable groups normalizes their persecution.
Disagree. Wasn't this site created to get awayfrom the insanity of X-Twitter?
He is on here for NO GOOD REASON at all! If you want him to read your posts... have at it! I'm blocking him and all that support him!
Who cares about blueskys growth? Fuck that bitch
Fuck that traitor
hell yeah 🤙 this place rocks
Like anything good would come from him being here
With him come bots… I’d rather not have to deal with that.
🤔 NOPE! Fuck that guy.
Nah, Blue Sky was a safe place for those fleeing other platforms. Now it's full of political junk. We can get MAGA crap everywhere else, please keep it a nice place to share nice things.
I mean, he picked the *one* topic and the *one* angle that he knew would be the most controversial to make his debut here for engagement. Easily viewed as trolling from a potentially fake account, hence the ban (which has been removed I think?) Extremely hard to view his attempt as genuine.
NOBODY WANTS HIM HERE, TO SPREAD HIS TOXIC POISON. He does not want to be on here to have civil discourse, & that's why We're here. Go to X if you want to here what he has to say.
What if Hitler opened an account here?
Nope. I don’t want to share space with a lying pos who indulges in hate speech. Not welcome here. Maybe some wholesale MAGA rejection will help them get a clue that normal people don’t like them or the lies they spew?
There's a difference between 'dissenting voices' and 'blatant liars'... and the latter will not be tolerated, especially VPOTUS's line of Yes Man BS...
Well, the other question is - was that really his account or another actor.
Fair. It would have been much more amusing to see him ragequit in less than an hour.
I don't think the account is legit. I also don't think we need vike propaganda, that's what X is for. Bluesky has standards, that's why I'm here. I do not go to X, FB, or Insta. I prefer the peace without the hateful drama.
Wouldn't enhance the site at all, imo.
U have a point....in normal times. It will take up media space, help flood the zone, & power their propaganda war. Regime is enemy of democracy & America. Accusations are confessions. No matter, his cause will be devious. This is no longer normal times, time to fight to get those back.
Why would you want this place to end up like all the others? No good can come of it. Make people seek out his voice-don’t just splash that lying stupidity on all who have left the other toxic sites.
I disagree. We’re all sick to death of the whole thought process of “both sides” and giving the proven (by themselves) assholes yet another try to be good/behave when we know they won’t.
Yeah I'm gonna disagree here. Germany bans Nazi speech and it's about time we do too.
We don’t want extreme fascist voices like Vance. Don’t wobble on this
I don’t think you get it. We want to discuss the the issues without listening to insanity and bullshit. They aren’t opposing viewpoints, it’s propaganda that has become exhausting.
I disagree. The best part about Bluesky is the way we can shut up a hateful and dangerous person and give good people a place we can come together and reset when we need to and then go forth to resist if we want to hear Vance, he is already all over the place anyways. Jmo
Good for Bluesky!
He's not just a dissenting voice, he's a vile bucket of pig vomit.
I stand behind Bluesky; their judgement has been impeccable to date; no need to second-guess them now.