X2Y @x2y.tech · Feb 21

SAM ALTMAN: “People talk about how much energy it takes to train an AI model … But it also takes a lot of energy to train a human. It takes like 20 years of life and all of the food you eat during that time before you get smart.”

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Al · Feb 22

Well well...

Rob Haile · Feb 21

So, if we train the machines we won’t need people?

Birds are good · Feb 22

Reminder this guy raped his sister www.stlpr.org/news-briefs/...

Jen · Feb 23

Hope people start pointing to his thoughts on this when they start up with their faux panic about falling birth rates

titusoates6 · Feb 21

Idiot

Weekend Editor · Feb 22

There's an idea, utility theory, which tries to guide you to doing the most good. Philosopher Robert Nozick invented the idea of "utility monster": edge cases in a utility function make you do monstrous things. This is how a utility monster sees children. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utility...

Meepdog · Feb 21

We've wasted so many resources on humans. Best to restrict their inputs early and redirect them to AI.

Lynnie Tunis · Feb 22

Sam Altman and his pals will be the cause of this century's Bloody Sunday.

Noah Joad · Feb 21

We never should have taken analogies off the SAT.

Keith Hates Fascists · Feb 22

Sam, you're using too much energy. I guess we should shut you down too!

Stoneface · Feb 21

Is he talking about… childhood

Granuailynn · Feb 21

Techdudebro desperately trying to protect his investments in his corporation "that's like a person" now trying to spin false equivalence that AI is also "like a person" The fact anyone gives him or FElon or any of these techbro losers any O2 is a stain & shame on our species

Karl Schwartz · May 2

straw man, and by the way: " A single large AI training facility can consume between 2.4 and 24 gigawatt-hours (GWh) **every day**, which is enough to power roughly 80,000 to 800,000 households. Brookings: www.brookings.edu/articles/glo...

RJBIII · Feb 23

Innes Walker · Feb 22

What a callous way to view humanity, particularly children. Kids aren't a progress bar for future labor, they're full people. I feel sad for his son.

Marc won’t tolerate this, because his children will be next · Feb 21

Let it starve, then. Nobody wants it anyway, except the few who think it will make them rich.

@dredecopp.bsky.social · Feb 21

And I'm sure his mom reminded him of that EVERY day. How do you think he turned out so "well"?

@bxbx4.bsky.social · Feb 21

Sam’s talking like that cause nobody’s buying what he’s been selling

Rouleur · Feb 21

Looks like millienia of Human development failed at least once.🙄

Kat K 🐾🐾 · Feb 21

Comparing an algorithm to human life is peak billionaire greed. They have to pay the human employees but can and HAVE gotten communities and utility companies to pay for their data centers.

@prudencegoodwife.bsky.social · Feb 21

Could we save money by shooting all the babies into space is something I believe he has thought of. In his world there are about 1000 people and billions of useless eaters.

Foxy · Feb 22

This is the weakest argument for AI I've ever heard. Someone take the microphone away from him until he learns to engage his brain.

wharf rat · Feb 21

put him in prison

Daz · Feb 22

i dunno this guy is living proof against that

Jason Parton · Feb 22

What a moron.

Chris Henry · Feb 22

So we are going to use the same energy to make humans dumb as we did to make them smart AND waste energy to teach AI to be wrong like half the time?

@lumidingo.bsky.social · Feb 21

Some say he's still eating.

4WheelMe · Feb 22

tomato tomato

sturgeonmouth · Feb 21

Dude needs to eat more

Isabel Corvus · Feb 22

Billionaires are incompatible with intelligent life, although they have solved the fermi's paradox.

Diogenes Dog · Feb 21

*maybe we could just grow food Sam. humans can fucking grow food, Sam* This is also the genius who said you can’t raise a baby without AI, so maybe we just accept that he’s profoundly fucking stupid

T S Lebenzon · Feb 21

Altman reasons as a child would, when it suits his agenda.

✧TENROU✧DOLGO✧ · Feb 22

I think Sam Altman should have his energy sources cut off permanently :)

Josh · Feb 21

AI ≠ Human Life Someone stuff this moron in a locker.

BRWardWriter · Feb 21

What a clueless monster. The thing is, the energy consumed in the 20 years of a human life is being consumed in days for the AI models (give or take).

Andrew Harper · Feb 23

Sam maybe consider the amount of water, sun and nutrients it takes to train an eggplant next time you sit on one… bsky.app/profile/thom...

Wes · Feb 21

My favorite part is at the end he is like “it’s probably caught up on an energy basis”

Will · Feb 21

Fuck these people

Disco Megan · Feb 21

20 years is also approximately how long it takes for most men to realize that this hairstyle is not it.

Dale Redman · Feb 21

Paxton · Feb 21

He’s got some stiff competition for Worst Person Alive but man is he trying hard

LEDlogic · Feb 22

Can he be swapped with AI then?

LEDlogic · Feb 22

I am all for replacing him with AI.

DEN of OG · Feb 21

Partyglouberman · Feb 21

This is a huge part of why large portions of the population dont trust this technology. These guys talk like we are units on a spreadsheet of the same value as their computer. They'll never have enough and everything they do is about extracting more from you and me, solely for their own gain.

JAtheArsenalFan · Feb 21

His parents failed him and everyone else.

Jenny Drac Paranormal Instigator · Feb 22

And if you're like Sam you can go way longer before you get smart!

tommylamb · Feb 21

such an innocent young man

Mary!! 🐓❤️ · Feb 21

this fucking idiot, are you kidding me lmfao. objectifying people like this, like humans are an investment. sam you fuck-up, you embarrassment. long walk, short pier.

Steve Darnall · Feb 21

Someone didn't get enough food.

Florian Koch · Feb 22

How much energy does it cost to have one billionaire?

Bafflegabs · Feb 21

Let us know when you achieve this whole “getting smart” thing, Sam.

8647Russ · Feb 21

Altman speaks in AI slop. You can hear ChatGpt saying the same thing, right? Take. Away. His. Keys.

DC · Feb 21

So, Sam Altman is, what, one? Two?

Chris · Feb 22

Screams a man that had no friends growing up and now resents everyone. Hasn’t left school grudges behind.

Arundelith · Feb 21

How much energy does it take to lift a guillotine blade?

ben · Feb 21

Me need food

Royal 👑 · Feb 21

how much food does he have left before he gets there?

Stream the Vote · Feb 21

M · Feb 21

I can't believe we are at a stage where this needs to be said, but every single human's Humanity is infinitely more valuable than any machines. But this is what happens when some People feel that their opportunities to make money are more important than human beings' lives. bsky.app/profile/msde...

I Heart Noise · Feb 21

I heard that laughter in the middle of the clip

bug1 · Feb 22

Get me smart

Chris 🇨🇦 Stand on Guard · Feb 21

No concept of human value bsky.app/profile/thes...

SlugTales · Feb 21

He's totally right, we should be spending those resources on raising and educating people.

sandearl is still resisting · Feb 22

It will take at least 20 years to train an AI to be as versatile as a well educated human. Right now they talk smart but just regurgitate stuff they grab from the highly flawed internet.

Humannoyed 📎 · Feb 21

Scum

VinylNerd · Feb 21

He should have run this by ChatGPT before opening his mouth.

Sergio Tormantos · Feb 22

Also you can train a human only to find his training as a human being resulted in a failure: i.e., Sam Altman

Andrew Elmore 💽 · Feb 21

Why is he still breathing free air

Jon Deysman · Feb 21

what went wrong then?

@bobfrombob.bsky.social · Feb 22

Think of all the food this fuck ate and got stupid.

David is not a cat · Feb 21

OpenAI is a MAGA company. OpenAI president Greg Brockman literally gave $25m to MAGA Inc, a pro-Trump super PAC and slush fund. Use a less evil company like Anthropic. Claude is better anyway.

The Store · Feb 21

So he's saying his AI has the same value as a human when it comes to the investment of resources So that's like a hop skip and a jump away from saying AI is worth more when it comes to the investment of resources

Dr. Dabbles · Feb 22

A 2000 kcal diet is 2.3 kWh per day. This is so stupid on its face that even his most hyperventilating fan should see it's another scam. Yet here we are.

tandigi · Feb 22

Sam needs another 20 years of training… but probably decades more. 🙄

Heidi Finan · Feb 21

Look all the training that went into him and yet just a crap resulting product.

Cynthia Cooper · Feb 24

If only his parents had assessed their parental ‘spreadsheet’ and said ‘Nah’ 🙄

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@moose1212.bsky.social · Feb 21

Humans and the food they have to eat. They are the worst.

Pete Hausler · Feb 21

worst fucking people in the world.

Kain Raven Tiene Calor · Feb 22

Wasted tons of food for nothing in Sam cases

r #FreeŁink · Feb 22

sure but how long doesnit take the computer to rape its baby sister

@beadad.bsky.social · Feb 21

How are the stupidest people on the planet this powerful? Maybe I should just hit myself in the head with a brick and see if I get rich.

@californiathoughts.bsky.social · Feb 22

So humans are apparently needy leaches who have to be fed to stay alive

Marina Arvanitis · Feb 21

It’s the audience nods that get me

Casket · Feb 21

again are we suggesting we murder creatives?

Travis Klempan · Feb 22

Dumb dummy has had twice that long and nothing has worked.

Max Morritz 🇺🇦🇵🇸🔻🐸 🖖 · Feb 21

Sure.... 🤣🤣🤣

The Raccoon Overlord · Feb 21

Some people have not been bullied enough.

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Axels15 · Feb 21

Is Sam Altman an idiot, or just a liar?

karinchu · Feb 21

Jesus buddy. You are a monster.

RichardTheSlovakKittyBoy (Richard Robinson Rayveson) · Feb 23

If A.I. takes over a job, It will be called adolficial hitlerigence.

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Roarin'_Raven · Feb 21

In Sam's case, some people never reach that point at all.

The Humble Bumblebee · Feb 21

He’s not very clever, or a clear thinker, is he? Somewhat forgetting that human life, whether in training or not, is sort of the point of human civilisation, and that economy is what we do to make those lives better and more fulfilling. Just unbelievably blinkered, I bet you ChatGPT would do better!

E. Perkins 🎃 · Feb 22

Ok, sounds to me like, for sake of the world, we should probably eliminate either humans or AI. I vote we eliminate AI.

Fluffyscruff expert, EITCA certified · Feb 22

sam altman is correct here

Buttercup Q. Skullpants · Feb 21

Now where have we heard the term “useless eaters” before??

LAL · Feb 22

Humankind would have been better off—by far—had the tech lords never existed This is a skeet about regulation and political will

Mash · Feb 21

Let’s make sure Altman is barred from eating or drinking so that the energy he would have consumed can power his data centers.

Stephen Monteith, World's Greatest Secret Author · Feb 22

Wow. It's almost like humans have some kind of intrinsic value and A.I. does not.

@ogdowney.bsky.social · Feb 22

Oh Mr Robinson, we really need you and your gun, again

Berserkerkitten · Feb 21

Huh. Turns out you can be a colossal, sister-fucking moron, and the whole world still listens to your unbelievably stupid thoughts if you're wealthy enough.

Tim Gray · Feb 21

And then the human can give useful, truthful answers to questions, and actually think about them. A much higher return on input.

La Flaca Asensio · Mar 3

ia + robots = human beings obsolete innterms of the purposes of the 1% we gave them our knowledge and intelligence for free

Andrew Dilley · Feb 21

And his hair is a fucking mod.

Andrew Dilley · Feb 21

There's a waste of energy right there. Delete.

Andrew Dilley · Feb 21

And the audience tittered.

Andrew Dilley · Feb 21

KILL ALL HUMANS

Dr. Funk McLovin · Feb 21

why does he look like a 22 year old frat boy

@alicia-daugherty.bsky.social · Feb 21

Whatever AI model wrote that talking point is seriously defective or just hates him.

Seth A Quimby-🇮🇪🇵🇷🇵🇸 · Feb 21

These are the dumbest people alive, and he’s a billionaire

Tommy Woo · Feb 21

So what's the ROI on having a kid anyway? If it isn't better than 18% I'm going with crypto.

BBDewz · Feb 22

And in some cases, much, much longer.

Greg Gardner · Feb 21

Huh?

Polly Pallister-Wilkins · Feb 21

GenAI is anti-human

Horn Slack · Feb 21

I would not want this man as a parent.

@kelleywillis.bsky.social · Feb 22

And yet, in the sense of being human, that particular edition learned nothing.

Wife of Debt (Debt Peon) · Feb 23

Be nice if this dumb motherfucker shut the fuck up forever.

Megazoned Out 23 · Feb 21

Sam Altman: * just endless reams of the dumbest shit you’ve ever heard* Silicon Valley: How many hundreds of billions do you want?

Misty M ⛰🌻🌳🌺🦋🐝😷 · Feb 22

Wellll that’s…something isn’t it?

Gloria protects the dolls! 🐸📎🖇️💉🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈 · Feb 22

Maybe, just maybe as an intellectual game, since this human meat bags are anyways seen as costly savages with less computing skills then little sams machines, why not go full on pitchfork style and play along the role he asserts to that meat bags 🤷🏻‍♀️

martin_fff · Feb 21

sounds like this fucker is advocating stopping having humans

SD · Feb 22

Fucking shithead

Ben · Feb 22

Just utterly weak logic at work

Case Nightmare Badger · Feb 21

the wall for him.

@jranch4.bsky.social · Feb 21

1. Is he admitting it takes him 20 years to learn anything? 2. If people like this jackass are the ones training AI, it is bound to stay stupid and wrong. He is not making a good case for it.

Maurício Pitta · Feb 22

Ecofascist crap

@turn-left.bsky.social · Feb 21

Dude is breathtakingly stupid.

Jim Raffensperger · Feb 22

First people to be replaced with AI are the CEOs, and CIOs promoting this shit.

Boudicca of Suburbia · Feb 22

So his argument is let’s take the resources we currently invest in humans and give them to machines. Leaving humans with… ???

@butter-flight.bsky.social · Feb 21

Sam Altman should return his nutrients to the collective.

Linda Marie 🕊️ · Feb 21

Can we stop feeding Sam?

Cley Faye 🐀 · Feb 23

"train a human" This dude is worse than trash.

Adam Schwitters · Feb 21

Why is this guy not pelted with rotten fruit whenever he walks outside?

Paul Lee · Feb 21

(Sammy in his head) Checkmate

Emma Peel's Ass-Kicking Judo Chop · Feb 21

I wonder if his parents ever regret having him...

dr. schmoo · Feb 21

Just nothing going on in there

Duz · Feb 21

Chris⚖️Justice · Feb 21

🤣🫠

Mario plays guitar · Feb 22

TBF this is typical Ted Talk BS: another snake oil peddler pretending being clever will make him sound smarter. Not all the Ted Talkers, but a whole lot of them.

Chris Reed and the Anime Raiders · Feb 22

Faulty logic: While it takes the person 20 years AI expends the same amount of energy required in a few seconds. For it to be a fair comparison I would need to raise over 10 million children. I'm gonna need a bigger house.

Danny, Squaresoft's Official FFVIII Shill · Feb 21

He genuinely sounds like a 14 year old whos dad never once told him no.

Ristray · Feb 22

@123smoothie.bsky.social · Feb 21

Hello my name is Sam and i am a complete psycho

Arlene Matthews(Arlo) · Feb 21

I was smart enough long before 20 to recognize thus creep for exactly what he is. I wouldn’t have taken Halloween candy from him when I was five

@chadmobley.bsky.social · Feb 21

His sales pitch is withering

Newbuu2 · Feb 22

These tech ghouls need to pick a lane. They want everyone to have more (white) kids. But want to replace lots of people with AI. But also point out how much energy people use to raise.

Dave Versace · Feb 21

How the fuck does he think this is a gotcha?

@kinto1un.bsky.social · Feb 22

Well clearly this guy didn’t get all the food he needed…

brilliantorange · Feb 22

This fucking streak of piss

Silvio Vannini · Feb 21

And sometimes the energy and food and time spent raising a human being from the cradle to 20ys old is literally wasted Wasted Wasted A waste or energy food and time Go figure when that's the case, Mr. Altman🤓🤓🤓

@rosevl.bsky.social · Feb 21

This is just another Mitt Romney. Having robbed humans of their labor and creativity, turn around and accuse them of being parasites.

AlysWallMigrated2Oz · Feb 24

So.. is his thesis that we should kill humans because AI and robots are cheaper to 'run'? Is he advocating pkanned obsolescence for humans? Mondo Bizarro!

Lucie🐈‍⬛Catnip · Feb 22

So his 20 years aren't up yet?

Jon · Feb 21

Apples to oranges. The goal should not be extraction.

David Bailey · Feb 21

And in Altman's case, even THAT wasn't enough!

Johnny Five · Feb 21

Cost benefit equation. Humans are less efficient. Solution, replace humans with ai.

Sky 🇺🇦 🇵🇸 - Won't Interact Without Alt Text! · Feb 22

This is a psychopath. He should be locked up as he is a danger to humanity.

Daniel Bowen · Feb 21

Interesting!

Funksands · Feb 21

Sam Altman needs a holiday at a work camp. An actual work camp. Cool Hand Luke this guy. "Hey Sam, where's my ditch?" "Hey Sam, who told you to dig that ditch?" "Hey Sam, where's my ditch?" 6 weeks later, a changed man.

Jessica🏳️‍⚧️ · Feb 21

Well it was trained on all digitized human knowledge, so if you want to look at it like that, the embodied carbon consumption of a foundation model should also include the consumption of every person that ever posted something online. Checkmate you misanthropic asshole

Dennis · Feb 21

Has anybody tried asking ChatGPT to calculate the value of pi? I saw that on a Star Trek once and it made the computer melt down or some shit.

robert burger · Feb 21

Damn this shit probably hits so hard if you're a fucking idiot

Lord Head · Feb 21

Sam Altman doesn't seem to have gotten any smarter after 20 years of eating food, maybe he can be replaced with a very short bash script.

Koos Swart · Feb 22

imagine training living humans who eat food

Rootless Cosmopolitan · Feb 21

Psychopath.

erikalynne · Feb 21

He either needs to eat more food or live longer because he almost has the smarts he thinks he had.

Susan Wallace · Feb 21

And some of you never get smart.

MaybeNextYear · Feb 21

Imagine this being your understanding of life and it gets easier to understand these absolute freaks.

Isabel🍃🍂🍁🌧️🌱🍉 · Feb 22

Ooooh, el weón weón, weón.

Ptbietz · Feb 21

Looks like the idiot is and idiot after 20yrs

Lindsey Manno · Feb 22

The world was better when I didn't have to hear this man's thoughts.

Rachel Wales · Mar 20

He wants a world with no humans. AI will never have the type of reasoning skills a human being has. And human beings learn in different ways, they are sensory. Machines don't have that.

Staid Winnow · Feb 21

“People complain that pro athletes make a lot of money, but what they don’t understand is that we need a lot of money because we spend a lot of money,” ~ Patrick Ewing 1998 NBA lockout.

I Read Comics! · Feb 22

Does he realize that those people would also be eating for 20 years whether or not they do the “same job” as AI—or is he promoting fewer people to eat because they don’t have jobs to afford to eat?

Chairman Meow · Feb 22

Serious question: Are we sure these guys are human? I'm starting to think that instead of sending Arnold back to kill John Conner, the machine sent these weird tech bros to slowly kill our society.

@aboutosleep.bsky.social · Feb 21

Still we shouldn't solely depend on AI technology that can be hacked or taken away. 🤷‍♂️ It's a giant liability every machine fucks up or breaks you still need people.

Konrad · Feb 21

How many humans could be fed and housed with the money and resources spent on training his electronic baby?

P3nny_Dr3dful · Feb 21

Some people never learn, even after 20 years of education and privilege.

Paulo Hoffman · Feb 21

Considering the amount of O2 consumed by Sam Atman during his entire life I also consider that is a complete waste of a precious gas... 😏

@captainawesome.bsky.social · Feb 21

Did this guy miss out on getting high and chatting with his buddies about this stuff in college? Or did he never outgrow that phase?

📷 Grant Swinbourne · Feb 23

Sam seems to not understand what life is for. I suggest he get one instead of playing with his toy robot

JSDreke · Feb 22

What an idiot 🤦‍♂️

X5Cucumber · Feb 22

this "person" is a disgusting "human being" and is an affront to the world

@thebioprof.bsky.social · Feb 22

Just another example of a dumb person's idea of a smart person