“A society should never entirely dismiss the appeal of the hero archetype, especially in the way it resonates with younger men,” Chris Arnade writes in The FP: thefp.pub/4gIB0re
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Mina · Feb 15
The hero archetype is first and foremost about control of one’s own will and destiny. Self indulgent man babies angry at the world ain’t it.
snakefeet · Feb 16
I know you guys think it’s only women exhausted by this bullshit, but I promise it’s not. There are endless opportunities to do good, and if your real problem is lack of praise, you haven’t even understood the stupid archetype.
Nick Walker Hirsch · Feb 16
Which is it, Chris? Is the problem that we are too individualistic and focused on creating our own identities, or are we not respecting men's supposedly innate need to be "heroes" who individualistically stand out from the crowd? And if they're such heroes, why do they need everyone to applaud?
AB in PA · Feb 17
This was so non-sensical I spent an hour of my life trying to process the absurdity. substack.com/inbox/post/1...
Ahseem’s Pop Pop · Feb 15
What really resonates with the young male followers of Tronald Dump is not the pursuit or the hero archetype. They are actually racists, sexists, bigots and/or white nationalists/supremacists seeking acceptance from their MAGA master. This is most troublesome.
Meebadd · Feb 16
That’s number 11.
Steve · Feb 16
Are you 10 years old?
Uptown Sinclair · Feb 15
Pygmalion by Chris Arnade
Dr Audrey Glover · Feb 15
They don’t want to put in the work to be “heros”, it’s hard, it’s self sacrifice, it’s helping people different to who you are, it’s caring and thoughtful. It’s not spending time in the gym and strutting around without a shirt going “look at me”. Hero’s are often invisible.
Slicey Boi Athletic Club · Feb 15
so if I'm reading this right, some guy was minding his own business on the shitter, and the self proclaimed hero did nothing more than wake him up?
The MAJC Man · Feb 16
All men wanna fuck bitches and make records - we have to let them
bog rat 🐀 (im taubenmodus) · Feb 16
Not all men.
Rebecca Solnit · Feb 15
But society should be very careful about the hero archetype, because it would take Hercules to carry its baggage and the Gods know who to clean up its messes. lithub.com/rebecca-soln...
Ohm Tchotchke · Mar 17
This article is so toxic and it renews my faith in humanity that it's getting ratiod.
BlonicYouth · Feb 16
? join the fire department or something. who's stopping you?
Chad GPT · Feb 16
That’s it society hates heroes lol you morons
Jorge Rivera Marín · Feb 15
The idea of a hero here is martial. You're talking about the feeling of martial empowerment. There isn't one type of heroism. That type of heroism requires an enemy, and when there isn't one, it requires manufacturing one. What we should do is stop worshiping violence as heroic.
Fucking Kakistocracy · Feb 15
The fuck is this asinine bullshit.
Roger Ailes · Feb 15
This fucking clown sees heroes in drunks trying to take a piss. They should've saved the effort and just pissed on Arnade.
Roger Ailes · Feb 15
Pictured: The Achilles of the budget motel parking lot.
Maybe - Amanda · Feb 17
I bet the local habitat for humanity could use some wanna be heroes to work this weekend.
Maybe - Amanda · Feb 15
Real clown shit here
Martti Nelson, Lady Author · Feb 16
I’m sorry, do they need some kind of government program to be “heroes”? A seminar? Grow the fuck up and help your family. Help your community. Be USEFUL and work hard for the betterment of others. That’s where heroes come from. Not from lifting weights with the bros and then oiling each other up.
DW Brightman · Feb 15
So do all women. Everybody wants to make a difference. What’s your point?
Bradley James Cooper · Feb 15
I read this. ‘half-baked’ comes to mind. And why did he portray himself like a tweaker in the author supplied photo?
🖕🧊 Livvie’s Jam 🖕🧊 · Feb 15
Of course women don’t want to do anything great. 🙄 Boo-fucking-hoo, fragile men. Let us know the next time you’re talked over in a meeting, or mansplained by some house contractor or mechanic or rando loser on the internet.
Barent W · Feb 15
Chris Arnade needs to be run over by a cybertruck.
The Big Z · Feb 15
Ukraine is right there.
@aboutosleep.bsky.social · Feb 16
True we can't ignore propaganda or "Hollywood" because humans need a drug of false hope so they can endure the billionaire thirst for power. 🤷♂️ I still don't egnore our present reality but I see unlike most "capitalist" we cant egnore the cost to our future generations.
Slimer S. Pumpkins! · Feb 15
@happyporcupine.bsky.social · Feb 15
All men should behave like heroes if they want to be seen as heroes. Put away the AR15 and the Gameboy, do the family laundry, assist softball coaches, volunteer at animal shelters, mow the elderly neighbor's lawn.
Misty M · Feb 15
Build a Habitat house. Coach a team. Volunteer for Big Brothers. Quit thinking of only yourselves and go do something. Equal parts selfish and lazy.
Ally The Ever Hopefull 🏴 🇮🇪 🇪🇺 · Feb 15
All wee boys, men grow up
Lydy · Feb 15
I mean, who's stopping you?
Jeff Mac · Feb 15
HEY LET ME BE A HERO is some of the least heroic shit I have ever read.
Top 1% of All Vaginas · Feb 15
Sounds like a good issue to take up in therapy.
@historyteachernerd.bsky.social · Feb 15
Lots of opportunities to be mentors, coaches and a positive impact on your local community. But that takes grit, responsibility, resilience and patience. You don’t just get to break shit and be “manly” (whatever that means) Plus it’s usually low pay. So most of these type of D bags will pass
Tyler Kolota · Feb 16
Almost anyone in the US can save a life in their spare time forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/BFbNym...
Casper Fox · Feb 16
Participation heroism.
Eric Horwitz · Feb 15
they should become nurses, nurses save lives
New York Shitty · Feb 16
This sounds like a metric fuckton of emotional labor I have zero time/inclination for.
Jo · Feb 15
I like how only men can resonate with the hero archetype but yet need others to do all the work in order to achieve the archetype. I guess all those training montages are just filler?
Brian Morans · Feb 16
As an older dad of a toddler, the amount of men I meet via playdates between our kids who are absolute narcissistic losers who find the very duty of raising a kid right to be a burden is about 7 out of 10. There are opportunities to be heroes - these men don't want that. They want to be coddled.
Kat4Obama · Feb 15
Try voting against racist woman-hating fascist bullies who grovel to dictators. Haven't you noticed Captain America punches them? Accept that waiting for a radioactive spider bite to give you superpowers is not a realistic option. Put on a shirt and normal pants and stand up straight.
Dieter Eagan’s Eyeball · Feb 15
Once again, it’s liberals fault that men want to be assholes or that people embrace fascism. The author never bothers to offer an argument for HOW the liberals are responsible for frustrating the hero’s journey of young men. It’s all just vibes. 1/
Adam · Feb 16
Who the hell thinks a shirtless dude with a "native" belly tattoo, standing in a parking lot, is a hero?
John H. Nordrhein · Feb 15
'modern liberal project, which favors the individual over the community' 🤡
Govind Acharya 🇲🇽 🇨🇦🇺🇦 · Feb 15
"Men like getting participation trophies."
JaneOfEarth · Feb 15
Counterpoint - we should create a society that collectively helps people and eliminates the need for heroes.
Hovercraft Full of Eels ❌👑 🖕🧊 · Feb 15
🙄🤮
@talentedripley.bsky.social · Feb 15
STOP whining. Become a teacher a great teacher, that’s heroic. You need to get over ego, self obsession is a long road.
Bee Gutjahr · Feb 15
Chance for what? Do it - be a hero and stop whining about it. Jesus with this whiny bro shit.
asglass · Feb 15
Awww…you big hero good boys.
JC Thomas · Feb 16
No one is depriving anyone of the opportunity to be a hero you self entitled twit.
Sheldon Cooper is a Fascist · Feb 15
Maybe they should do something like protect the most vulnerable in our society.
Pear Smoothie🍐🥤 · Feb 16
Well there's your problem. For someone to be a hero there has to be a baddie or some type of crisis. It's at the root of all your problems. Worshipping heros while doing nothing about the cause of the crisis. And when these lads don't have crisis, they will make one. That's you.
DishevldPeasant the human 🖕🏻Trumpism · Feb 16
Go be a firefighter or EMT then and be a hero that matters instead of some deranged John Wick wannabe
Ugly Alcibiades · Feb 15
Better take: www.liberalcurrents.com/the-crisis-o...
nick (he/him) · Feb 16
So no one involved in writing or editing this noticed how it says "the hero trades their physical suffering for communal praise...even if that means throwing themselves at a bathroom door" but also that the "hero of the night" was not a guy who suffered but rather a guy who got tools from his truck?
Alan Allport · Feb 15
Alternatively, how about men grow up?
The Bearded Educator · Feb 16
What weak-minded, insecure individual wrote this? Grow some self-efficacy.
Maz🇦🇺Mc🇺🇦🇪🇺🇳🇿🇬🇧🇨🇦 · Feb 15
Women share the exact same needs for self power but patriarchy insists on putting them down as a requisite for men to feel “powerful “. They can’t just be strong within themselves
Sean Bedlam · Feb 15
All men need to do a tremendous fart.
Big Poppa Tentacles · Feb 15
So this is for soft whiny cunts? Chris should get a new job, man writes like a fucking child.
Kit Connolly · Feb 15
“All men” what is this biological determinism?
henry sholar · Feb 15
i remember guys like you in high school. i'll say to you what i said to them: "Knock off the glue."
Sean McBride · Feb 16
Who is telling these men they aren't allowed to be heroes?
Swinny · Feb 15
Whine, whine, whine.
Jack Phillip ⚡️🔮 · Feb 15
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Huntington W. Sharp · Feb 15
What pernicious nonsense this is.
kusanagi · Feb 15
lol not even wrong
Noobsbt · Feb 15
Just here for the ratio
@fjhuggies.bsky.social · Feb 16
😂🤣😂 I thought this was from The onion.
David Guaraglia · Feb 16
If you want to be a hero go do something heroic instead of whining about how society should treat you as a hero for just being a 'manly man' or whatever. People respect firefighters, what they don't respect is dudes who listen to Joe Rogan and think that makes them tough.
@therealtarantelli.bsky.social · Feb 15
I have a dick, could you jerk me off too?
JD · Feb 16
Great news for them: they can be little heroes of the Republic by opposing Trump and the Republicans loudly.
Philip Loring · Feb 15
How about no youtu.be/Sgna0zPUNwE?...
Wish I could be more stoic. · Feb 15
What a dumb fucking movement and era. Self-important, defective, Dunning Krugers just hyper on likes, clicks, fantasies, and follows. Utterly. Un. Serious.
Paul Arzooman · Feb 15
Seriously? Maybe they should simply behave like decent human beings and leave the hero stuff to inane action movies and fairy tales. Maybe the hero Gotham needs is the guy who doesn't act like an entitled child living in a dreamworld.
Ulrikastrasse · Feb 16
”Without culturally approved ways to be a hero, a black market in unapproved, antisocial ones will pop up; these usually involve proving your worth through crime or violence” -always with the threats in these pieces. That’s how you know they just mean white men.
@comfypantswearer.bsky.social · Feb 15
Grow the fuck up.
A.G. Pasquella · Feb 15
Want to be a hero? Give blood if you can. Each blood donation saves up to three lives. Lie down, give blood, eat free snacks, save lives! It's easy! www.mayoclinichealthsystem.org/hometown-hea...
Dijon Bernthal · Feb 16
Hey hey Ho ho This skeet’s getting ratio’d
Hobo Pedestrian · Feb 15
Heroic Step 1: put on a shirt.
Lucille · Feb 15
Go ahead. Be a hero. Take the shot. Don’t miss this time.
sean · Feb 15
Why is it a white dude in the pic?
Jerry Scott · Feb 16
I don’t think the so-called Free Press understands what the word “hero” means. They seem to have a child’s understanding of the world.
Dan Tansky Monster Hunter 💼⚓️👻👽🧚🇺🇸 · Feb 16
This was my hero as a young man. I’m proud of who I became. I promised myself I’d never say it, but I can’t hold back. Maybe a majority of young men today are idiots.
@ntostl.bsky.social · Feb 16
Everyone’s favorite Wall Street bridge troll has opinions…wonderful
His Grace, the Duke of Ankh, CDR Sir Samuel Vimes · Feb 15
So…you’re saying you want participation trophies? Be a better person. Get off your collective asses and do something useful for other people. It is not that complicated.
Paul C. Dobbs · Feb 16
If I take my shirt off and look moody can I be a hero too?
Are You Being Detained · Feb 15
"All Men Want to be Bitten by Radioactive Spiders and Gain Magnificent Powers."
@spookybutkind.bsky.social · Feb 16
How's the quote go? "A boy wants to die for a cause and a man wants to live for one." Stop teaching boys that heroes are always the ones using violence.
Lesbian Necromancer in Space · Feb 15
Iceberg Artisan (she/her) · Feb 15
The whole point is that an ordinary person is put into an extraordinary situation and transforms into a hero. If anyone could do it, it wouldn’t be extraordinary.
DLG in DC · Feb 15
Then get off your fat entitled ass and do something. Walk the neighborhood and pick up trash. Coach little league. Volunteer at the fire department. Just STFU already. Softest generation in the history of the US.
Feline fiesty 🇨🇦🪻🧜♀️🐈🐈⬛🐈 · Feb 15
Isn't this what Achilles said in " the Iliad"?
Phlox · Feb 16
Well deserved ratio. Congrats
Leo Prints · Feb 15
Pupperino Spaghettio 🏳️🌈🇵🇸🏳️⚧️ · Feb 16
This mindset will get folks killed if taken how I think itll be. Like you can volunteer service, help the homelesss, etc. Thats fine. But yeah...many people dont think about that as being heroic.
Vicjin66 · Feb 16
🤣🤣🤣
Eric Thee Colt · Feb 15
It’s about time someone gave all those who entirely dismiss the appeal of the hero archetype a good talking to!
Glonzo the Bureaucrat 🇬🇱 🌹 · Feb 15
ok, so, serve in your local volunteer fire department. get trained as an EMT. mentor an underprivileged child. become a teacher in a rural community. there's lots of great ways to be a hero today.
JustPassingThrough · Feb 15
The world’s richest man is evil and trying to take over the world. What a glorious chance for the right shirtless young man to become the hero of the ages.
Jeffy Hirschbeck · Feb 15
All men want to be shirtless
Allison Hantschel · Feb 15
It's not like there's a shortage of Nazis around. Start punching.
Ham Roids · Feb 15
Well none of them are standing up to the fascists currently ransacking the country. None of them are standing up against genocide. None of them are combating the criminally toxic masculinity being fed to the youth. What's stopping you, lads?
Diana Parker-Kafka · Feb 16
Wow. I mean, Bari is pretty bottom of the barrel pathetic but this? and that photo!? 😂
Winnie Frolik · Feb 16
Then they should do things that are actually heroic like become EMT's, Firemen, rescue workers or even work for charity. Seems to me the problem here is guys who want all the status of heroism without earning it.
Susan Brooks ❌👑 · Feb 15
Never forget, it's always all about the white man.
National Security Advisor Captain Crunch · Feb 15
Fuck off with this baby brained dogshit
Chris Doll · Feb 15
Heroes wear shirts. Just sayin'....
@jach37.bsky.social · Feb 15
@designmom.bsky.social has a spot-on take on the hero complex. Usually these wannabe “heroes” do not want to do mundane things like wash their hands or do laundry (or get vaccinations), which actually save lives. It’s just about wanting to wave around guns. gabrielle-56863.medium.com/guns-god-pro...
Anita · Feb 15
go to therapy already.
@dream-king.bsky.social · Feb 16
Why does this assert without evidence that our society even partly dismisses the appeal of the hero archetype? Like, that’s not a thing that is happening. What is happening is that crybaby snowflakes want to be CALLED heroes simply for being crybaby snowflake emotionally stunted narcissists.
Guy That Does His Job · Feb 15
Be a good dad. Be a good husband. Be a good son and brother. Don’t whine. Fixed it for you.
@roo96.bsky.social · Feb 16
This article is complete horseshit written by a man-child with the emotional intelligence of a 12yr old boy for an audience of people just like him. The correct answer for the guy having a medical issue locked in the john is to call 911. The Rescue Squad would have him out within five minutes.
Estella · Feb 16
This isn’t a nazi platform Bari
Celine · Feb 15
*taps the sign*
K Fitz 🌮 · Feb 16
A few of these young guys won’t even wipe their own asses because they’re afraid it means they’re gay. They have light years of psychological growth to go before they can aspire to heroism. Block and tackle before trying to fly.
Benjamin Douglas · Feb 15
Susan Faludi wrote a great book, Stiffed, about how the old masculine ideals, for all their problems, involved participating in collective activities and doing one’s duties, but those ideas died with the service&advertising economy. This everyone-should-be-a-hero stuff is a symptom of that decline
Pat · Feb 16
here ya go, be the hero. 😂😂😂 www.nytimes.com/2025/02/14/m...
Pat · Feb 16
here's the thing, son. my guess is folks don't set out to be a hero. they find themselves in a circumstance and do what needs to be done like caring for family, neighbors, strangers, etc. know who is a hero but made his own 'chance'? chef Andre. be like him. I have nothing to 'give' you.
Fantastic M. Fox · Feb 15
is that guy wearing gym shorts under jean shorts you can't be a hero dressed in gym shorts under jean shorts wtf man
The beast morgan · Feb 16
No one is stopping men from volunteering for things that help society instead of whatever this is
They/Them (T. T. Perry) · Feb 15
Chris should spend more time in dive bars and no more time writing.
@jasonrbarron.bsky.social · Feb 16
The USA is in danger of collapse because a lot of dudes didn't realize they were fucking up their lives by not paying attention in highschool and trying really hard. Now their lives suck and the only good solutions all take inordinate hard work and they're bitter. So we all suffer for this stupidity
Hope for the Future · Feb 17
'The Free Press' sounds like the complete opposite... Remember Ministry of Truth in 1984?
maraleia · Feb 15
Fuck off.
Gregory Butler · Feb 15
a few questions the theme seems very gender essentialist - dude sees drunk man nonsense in a bar, then twists that story beyond recognition to fit his rigid macho man politics agenda
Colleen Carroll · Feb 16
Oh, please. What a load of crap. These dweebs ain’t heroes. You know who is?
Ok I’m here now 🇺🇦 · Feb 16
He can go over to Sudan and pick up the slack for USAID workers who have been unceremoniously canned and be a hero. Save some starving children. Then talk to us about being a hero. I’m waiting.
lizard king · Feb 15
Arnade is at the Free Press!?! LMAO
Tom Dougherty · Feb 15
This is fucking pathetic. 😂😂😂
Kacey325 · Feb 16
Came her for the ratio and was not disappointed 😂
I may be invisible, but you're transparent. · Feb 16
I'm literally going to watch a superhero movie with my nephew tomorrow. Heroism isn't losing its appeal, what you're framing as heroic, isn't.
zoot car · Feb 15
Honor follows virtue
Mike · Feb 15
Reactionaries are now crying because we *don't* give people participation trophies
The-Greetest · Feb 16
Yar · Feb 15
Are you writing this for the lazy dipshits who want the glory but don’t want to earn it? Perhaps they could look at some actual heroes and model their behavior after them. If you want to be a hero, there’s more to it than doing one heroic thing.
Kenny, What Gives? · Feb 16
So the people who want to undermine the accomplishments of women and people of color now want to hand out participation trophies? Interesting.
Harry Coffill · Feb 15
Someone show burly, here, where the dishwasher is.
Bipolar Viscountess · Feb 15
Modern liberalism is not oppositional to heroism. In fact, one of its biggest faults is casting milquetoast centrists as category heroes. Anyway, heroism isn’t complicated. Help someone else in a selfless way. There are literally millions of daily opportunities, outside of videogaming screens.
Richard · Feb 15
Then they turn around and mock people who share about doing good in the community for "virtue signaling" or doing it for clout
bettybarcode (she/her) · Feb 15
And yet military, firefighting, law enforcement & similar jobs are theirs for the asking.
Jishō · Feb 15
This is stupid. Period.