onion person @junlper.beer · 25d ironically this groups main problem is the problem the democratic party has, in that it’s purely reactive. they don’t promote a positive agenda that speaks to people, always on their back foot, defensive. this inspires no one
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Just like republicans call democrats communists, the right wing of the democrat party calls DSA communists. Democratic socialists may as well go all the way.
VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO
They sound so lame.
The "Dems" are just closet Republicans...😡
"oh look! The DSA is kicking our ass in our own house with our own voters which clearly means they are unpopular with Democrats!" Legit right wing Democrats think winning with Democratic votes is a non-viable strategy
They talk about kamala like she won the presidency
Why should Democrats bother when it's just constant bs of "progressives" attacking "centrists" attacking "democratic socialists" attacking "far right" attacking the "working people group, attacking "single-issue Dems" attacking the DNC JFC, try supporting each other. We all want the same things
I think their main problem is their politics suck shit!
They’re just a Tony Hinchcliffe comedy special away from being regular republicans.
Crazy thing about the "closed primary" bit, it means only registered Democrats were allowed to participate. Independents can't vote in D primaries in NY, so we know for sure it was only their own voters. Ironic, cuz I'm old enough to remember Clintonite gloating that Sanders only won open primaries
Bribery in politics got to go !
C’mon y’all you’re losing the point… stop it, damnit. We don’t have time to risk this crappy infighting we have a country to save Get your heads screwed on straight Let the GOO rip themselves apart there is too much at stake for us to self emolate right now Save it
DSA engages in loser shit all the time, but never on the level these Promise dipshits have already achieved.
How many times were the same guys celebrating maga candidates losing their primaries in deep red states?
Half of the Dem party is planted republicans registered as Dem to fuck the Party. The "Manchins, Sinemas, Fettermans" and they need to b dealt with just like the rest of the traitors to our nation. They are the enemy of the people.
it’s so funny how hard they’re trying to downplay those victories, like we all saw them crying and shaking at the results, they aren’t fooling anyone!
Bc they too are owned by Israel
Then they were too scared to debate Hasan lmao
So they "reject socialism." Like social security, medicaid and medicare. They reject the policies and programs of FDR. Good to know they're the republican lite party. Now go lose some elections with that message.
Touching: the Democratic party rallies together to reject the idea that better things are possible.
13 House Democrats, the usual suspects who vote for odious Republican legislation, are already signatories. Vichy Democrats, each and every one of them. www.thepromisetoamerica.com
Wrong. It's very inspiring to the corporations who use the Democratic Party as their butt-puppet.
They might as well ask AI to write a strongly worded letter on their behalf.
Third way is indistinguishable from an anti-leftist psyop by Republicans to separate Dem voters from their party leaders. They are atp responsible for the inevitable Don Jr 2033 presidency. Liquidate them into nutritious goo, too.
Hoo boy. Reactive AND presumptuous. 'Why don't you just tell us what the problem is? You're not allowed to say the problem is us, though.'
Lmfao
It's fascinating that the Israeli State is actively campaigning against social democrats in the USA. It's almost as if they know that progressives are against their genocidal imperialism.
🔥 Exactly. As I've consistently found on all social media sites I've utilized - #Bluesky included - 🤑 #centrist 🔵 HATES the left wing 😳 OF ITS OWN PARTY (almost?) as much as Trump. S. 🔵 #3rdWay🔵 particularly HATES the anti-corporatist #DemocraticSocialists' #economics. apple.news/A1Hmfe465S16...
We've have enough of the negativity, the rudeness, the fuckery. Democrats DO NOT want to go there. They DO NOT want to further push the majority of Americans already fed up with the nonstop circus. Do your mother fucking jobs for the People. We WANT these DSA policies. We WANT a better US.
If any of those 13 are in my district I will believing that vote blank
Also, Israel is socialist thanks to US support.
What the fuck is "Promise to America"? Honestly sounds like some rw coded think tank
You can't have a positive, forward-looking agenda when the purpose of party leadership is to maintain an intolerable status quo. Anything that would address the needs and demands of voters is unacceptable to the people with money who call the shots for the party. Purely reactive is all they can do
If they're one thing that makes you know you're cool, it's using the word "comrade" sarcastically like you're Colonel Flagg
Full debate club dweeb "what could you possibly disagree with about my reasonable positions?"
Big DEBATE ME energy
Controlled opposition in the performative theater of the absurd.
while livestreaming
Is this Matt Yglesias’s group?
Absolutely rancid vibes coming from that account, talking like it isn’t some astroturfed group with some freak billionaire pulling the strings behind the scenes. We’ve seen this shit too many times before to fall for the “I’m a smol guy moderate just wanting us to all hold hands and sing Kumbaya.”
I'm living for "Comrades!"
Literally nobody likes these people, pure loser energy 💯🤮
glad I dont live in any of their districts because I could never vote for these terrible people
Can’t wait for 4 more GOP yrs
Why are these dorks insistent debate is the new noble combat?
The DSA sucks shit and at least their chapter closest to me turned out to be transphobic as fuck. Same as it ever was.
Is the quill on their logo meant to pen strongly worded letters to Trump? They're awfully quick to "reject socialism" tho.
Responding to earnest and clearly articulated demands for real change with a smug, pithy little comment because your only real struggle day to day is trying to get your Twitter numbers up.
And I just can't get behind "comrades" as a form of address. For fucks' sake.
Maybe don't call us Comrades??? DSA is fine but there are about 200,000 members. This does not win elections.
The most effective weapon the GOP has is DIVIDE AND CONQUER. Don't fall right into their hands! We must help each other.
ah yes, the centrists will surely win over the people who want politicians who actually do something to help by... making a new superpac and acting like a snitty supervisor online?
They focus group, they have their college roommates' firm poll people, and fundraise. None of that involves any positive proposals, just wiggling in a direction based on how they perceive republican voters are swinging.
Promise to America sounds like a Peter Thiel PsyOp group
“Comrades” as sarcastic and derisive, instead of sincere. They just wanna be open fash so fucking bad and it kills them that they have to pretend to be better than that
Vote blue no matter who…. Except the red-hat Democrat
their playbook is old & tired
this is exactly what's sunk the labour party in the UK within two years of sweeping into power with a huge majority, just a complete inability to have a plan for governing beyond triangulating it off the positions of further right wing parties, who the voters see as more authentic in their beliefs
the democrat party's problem is that they're a political party which are by definition a corruption of democracy
The dems are the only opposition you have right now.
List their names.
agreed!!!!
They're also trying to launch a massive Internet surveillance state to silence dissent with the help of big tech and GOP.
Clinton lost on this same vibration. Dems are always learning the wrong lesson from their voters. Digging their heels in, instead of using the new energy. It’s tradition.
Established Dems keep forgetting that the working class is taxed to death, and we see NOTHING IN RETURN. We all lose 20% of our paychecks to taxes and under socialism, we could actually see benefits from our taxes instead of paying for wars.
Text from “Friends for Peace, a supporter group focused on correcting misinformation and sharing accurate information about Israel and the Middle East.” “John” claimed the Iran peace deal would “weaken” Iran. When asked how giving Iran $350B would weaken Iran, no response. Israel is in overdrive.
>publishes a shit document of neoliberal nonsense >requests debate >chickens out Yeah these are the fighters we’ve been looking for. Geniuses.
You idiots are dividing the Democratic Party for your own benefit.
Centrists aren’t even telling the truth. They’re conservatives. And they want you to think they aren’t. There. That’s all you need to know. Their entire ideology is “we have no deeply held principles or beliefs.” It’s the political ideology of Aaron Burr. It was excoriated by MLK. Many others.
JFC. Facepalm. Does that include the kind of socialism where we redistribute wealth and send it upwards?
I read the "promise to America" and my immediate reaction was "So, that's what happened to the '60's GOP. Why are they masquerading as Democrats?".
"Nothing will fundamentally change" should have been the end of the party.
Even some Democrats are ignorant about socialism. Greedy PIGS did a good job making everyone afraid of democratic socialism where government works for everyone.
Never, ever voting for those fools. Ever.
The people who wrote this promise won’t keep it. Promise.
“If there’s a new way…I’ll be the first in line” BUT, I’ve spent too much time in the frmr USSR to call anyone “Comrade” and unironically wear a hammer & sickle. ~~NO~~
Not helpful. With less than 6 months before the midterms, I would prefer that every post attacks the GOP.
Which is why we have a gangsta running the country, into the ground.
The Democratic party has assumed the Republicans would abide by regular order. Win some lose some. Oppose an agenda, but keep aspects of it when you take power. They are now dealing with a dedicated MAGA regime that assumes a forever rule. No quarter. No compromise. No adherence to the law Fuck em
Those losers want to talk with DSA instead of constituents. That is a key problem. They do their master's bidding and do not give a damn about the people who vote them into office.
Accepting money from any foreign country should be a nonstarter.
Establishment Dems still waiting on bipartisanship THEY have turned this into an us-or-them zero sum game We need to act like it
They're not on Bluesky, right? Because every post of theirs I've seen is from the Nazi site.
Capitalism is a force not a goal. Socialism is a force not a goal Since capital has gravitational properties, the result of pure capitalism is that one person amasses all the wealth Socialism is the necessary and appropriate balancing force to capitalism, not a threat to it
they are so *boring*
Eventually, they'll come up with an agenda that tries to please everybody, but please nobody. They just look weak and spineless.
Dems in disarray.
Yeah no one cares, it’s like 5% of Dems
hey when are you going to say bad shit about Republicans? (this is a trick question)
could they be any more mealy-mouthed
They want specific objections? Okay, I can do that
pokemon go fuck yourselves - DNC, 2026
Tom Suozzi (D-NY), co-leader of the “Promise to America” pledge, went on Fox and Friends to explain their position. Spineless MAGA collaborators.
Because they're controlled opposition. 2 parties that love capitalism and hate workers.
#30million8/30 30 million on August 30th. Imagine a march of 30,000,000 on August 30th. Now stop imagining and begin making it real. This only works if we share the idea. Please repost.
Hasan and the DSA even responded and said yes. Hasan said to come on his stream and they chickened out. They're such chickenshit. They have no real grassroots backing. It's all billionaire astro-turfing.
and look at all that aipac money... that is the other problem...thanx onion BTW
A competent enemy is less fearsome than an incompetent ally.
More uninspired “Centrism”. Wonder who their Big Money backers are? We are capitalist, not socialist We want safety, not lawlessness We are responsible, not reckless We believe government should solve problems, not create them We are proud, not ashamed of America www.thepromisetoamerica.com
Maybe someone can educate them on the meaning of Socialism, Communism, and Democratic Socialism? Their ignorance is embarrassing.
Bragging about losing to "communists" in a district carried by liberals is an amazing self own. Promise to America sounds like something Mike Johnson would endorse.
Please feel free to ratio my representative Janelle Bynum OR Fifth district, who was elected after the train wreck of Lori Chavez Deremer. She signed on to this shit. @bynum.house.gov so disappointed with you.
Also they're, like, huge nerds
Oh look another astroturfed Centrist group run by a College Republican
Only a Democrat would say “you won in a district that is heavily Democratic. That means you aren’t a Democrat”
"in a district Kamala won be 59 points" ...do they not understand that using "this is a massive neoliberal safe space and yet our neoliberal got their ass kicked" is not some sort of own?
I don’t get it. Everyone loves being condescended to and then asked to do a Zoom call, how is behaving like an email job middle manager not inspiring voters?
"Comrades!"? Seriously? They're nothing but Republicans who are too embarrassed to admit it
Why would they zoom in to have Josh Gottheimer lecture them on the merits of “Electability”
They paid more money than I’ll ever see in my life to some consultants to come up with this
They don't know how to win
There is very little difference between Democratic Socialists and FDR's Liberalism. Democrats need to embrace this. It's popular among the working class.
Also even putting aside the interparty fight and even ignoring the flashing genocide light, every other policy position I’ve read about the promise to America is rancid lol This snarky zoom call could have been an email
we are not a lock step group of minions like MAGA The people in districts and states will elect who they want to. Party bureaucracy should honor and support every single nominee. You can sort out your semantics later. This is a representative democracy. Or at least it used to be.
In American Government class in high school my teacher said the anti-federalists lost bc they didn’t present any kind of positive vision and being solely “anti-federalist” was not very persuasive. I don’t know if that’s really how it went down back then, but I’m becoming more convinced now.
These dweebs represent no actual constituency outside democratic donors and apparatchiks.
When the party that styles themselves as adults above childish trolling starts freaking the fuck out and MacGruber posting you know you must be onto something.
Please include the part where DSA directly told them to go chat with Hasan Piker about their differences and the centrists chickened out.
And a lot of the politicians who are members of it are... literal Reaganites, literal reactionaries.
I don't think Americans know what socialism is.
Israel has free universal healthcare Israel has free university Israel is spending OUR tax dollars to prevent Americans having what Americans pay for them to have Abolish all aid to Israel and get foreign interference out of US politics.
Also wait until November for when they move the goalposts. They'll then claim that DSA candidates can only beat Republicans in blue districts, and then later say only blue states, then say only purple states...etc.
Their whole "Promise to America" is like six individual paragraphs. There is zero substance. Zero policy. It's just the same hollow "we're capitalists who love America and value hard work" that just makes them sound like Republicans.
i can not think of a single policy proposal kamala had. or really biden. they were all things like "i'll cure cancer" and "make life gooder"
I'm not sure who promisedl to America is
The Democrats would much rather let the GOP rule forever than actually go Left.